Wikibooks:Requests for deletion

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Undeletion

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Pages and books can be deleted by administrators. These decisions are generally backed by consensus from a discussion on this page under the deletion section. No process is perfect, and as such, pages or books can be nominated for undeletion in this section. The following is the procedure:

1. Locate the page entry in the deletion log or the archived discussion. Some deleted pages have been speedily deleted without discussion.
2. Review the Wikibooks:Deletion policy and Wikibooks:Media. If you can build a fair case on something which wasn't considered before, you can raise the issue here.
3. Please add new nominations at the bottom of the section. Include a link to the archived discussion (or deletion log if there was none) and your rationale for why the page should be undeleted. If the community agrees, the page will be restored.

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Deletion

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Pages that qualify for speedy deletion do not require discussion. This section is for discussing whether something belongs on Wikibooks or not for all other cases. Please give a reason and be prepared to defend it. Consensus is measured based on the strength of arguments not on numbers. Anyone can participate and everyone is encouraged to do so.

Please add a new request for deletion at the bottom of this section with a link to the page or book in the heading and a justification. Also place the {{rfd}} template at the top of the page you want deleted. If you are nominating an entire book, {{rfd}} goes on the top-level page, but not subpages. Nominations should cite relevant policy wherever possible.

Please format the heading as == [[PAGE]] == in order to let the bot archive it. If there is a subject box, type [[PAGE]] into the subject box.

Scribus

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Food Safety Guide

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LGBT Young Adult Literature/Annie on My Mind

The page was transwikied from w:en:Annie on My Mind and looks almost similar to the Wikipedia article. Nothing has improved much since, despite some edits, to make the page look less like an encyclopedic article. To rephrase my rationale for deletion, this is Wikibooks, not Wikipedia or a collection of encyclopedic articles. I contacted the one who transwikied the page; he said to go ahead and have it deleted. I could have requested speedy deletion, but I saw a few other editors making contributions, like Thereen and Sandbergja. Therefore, I'm requesting deletion here instead. --George Ho (discuss • contribs) 04:28, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

Linter SQL RDBMS

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Pokemon

Per WB:RFD, this page is to be deleted. PokestarFan • Talk • Contributions 00:59, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

"This page has been deleted and protected to prevent re-creation."... so it does not need to be deleted and that likely means it was up for RFD previously -- it actually was deleted in 2006. There's no need for yet another RFD here. --Az1568 (discuss • contribs) 23:46, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

Microsoft Office from the beginning

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CIW Certification

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Science:_An_Elementary_Teacher’s_Guide/Curriculum Materials and Technology

This page has little useful information and, as teacher of the class, I do not plan on developing it further. I removed it from our Table of Contents and recommend its deletion. Flattail (discuss • contribs) 02:08, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

English-Hanzi

This book is just a collection of phrases translated into Hanzi. This book should be scrapped and a new one started, and covers topics like food, how is your day, actions, etc. PokestarFan • Talk • Contributions 01:26, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

Examples

Train

• English-Hanzi/Train: A train is a vehicle with a series of carriages. It runs on a railway. A train can carry a lot of passengers or cargoes.

This is not a page of copyright violation. --Efex3 (discuss • contribs) 22:01, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

@Efex3: I did not list it here because it is a copy violation. I listed it here to show that it is a collection of sentences. PokestarFan • Talk • Contributions 16:11, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Trump 'looks forward to visiting China

• English-Hanzi/Trump 'looks forward to visiting China': US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson told Chinese President Xi Jinping that President Donald Trump is looking forward to visiting China to enhance understanding between the two countries.

For this example, I found this article on the BBC. PokestarFan • Talk • Contributions 18:46, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

• You should delete this page if it is copyright violated, but should not to delete the whole book.--Efex3 (discuss • contribs) 21:12, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
• Wikibooks includes annotated texts--Efex3 (discuss • contribs) 23:55, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

This is wrong. This is from the policy:

Although we do not permit verbatim copies of pre-existing works, we do permit annotated texts, which are a kind of text that includes an original text within it and serves as a guide to reading or studying that text. Annotated editions of previously published source texts may only be written if the source text is compatible with the project's license.

BBC has a non-Creative Commons copyright license. The text is incompatible. Also, even if it were correctly licensed, this is not a guide to reading or studying that text. PokestarFan • Talk • Contributions 04:02, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

There are guides below the text helps to read and understand.--Efex3 (discuss • contribs) 04:22, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

@Efex3: While that may be true, the text is still copyrighted. And also, here is the English guide:

US/ state secretary/ Rex Tillerson/ told/ China/ state chairman/ Xi Jinping, Ronald Trump/ president/ looking forward to/ visiting/ China, to enhance/ between both countries/ 's/ understanding.

Your book has not been verified, as you are using a translator. First of all, it is Donald Trump, not Ronald Trump. A native Hanzi speaker needs to check over the book. PokestarFan • Talk • Contributions 13:46, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Discussion

This book is a series of English-Chinese materials for language learning, but not a book of food, how is your day, actions, etc.--Efex3 (discuss • contribs) 03:22, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

@Efex3: So is this book a collection of statements? If so, then should there not be another book that teaches individual words and phrases? PokestarFan • Talk • Contributions 03:30, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

This book contains a variety of materials used for language learning. It is better to have a method to search for related topics. As you are a software specialist, could you help create a method for searching related topics of this book?--Efex3 (discuss • contribs) 04:02, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

What about {{Book search}}? JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 08:16, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

• Delete I thought we had an ongoing discussion about deleting this book, in which the primary issue was copyright; a legal issue, not to be dismissed lightly. I find, though, that as part of some bookkeeping tasks that tbh I failed to check as closely as I presumably should have, that discussion was closed — in a nothing-more-to-be-done sort of way — and archived (at Wikibooks:Requests for deletion/English-Hanzi) despite what looks to me like a gradually forming consensus for deletion. It looks as if the most recent votes were by me and User:Dan Polansky, both for deletion. Did I misunderstand how all that ended? --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 14:01, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

The original discussion should not have been closed. On a related note, I'm also not sure why non-admins have been closing RFD's and RFPs anyways as they generally should get reviewed by an admin before that process happens. --Az1568 (discuss • contribs) 18:50, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

You should delete the pages which are copyright violated, but should not to delete the whole book.--Efex3 (discuss • contribs) 21:25, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

Previous discussion

Comment I am transcluding the last discussion here. PokestarFan • Talk • Contributions 18:39, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

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Template:Rfd-survived

Not needed, I have managed to incorporate this feature into {{talkheader}}. See Template:Talk header/sandbox and it's subpage, Template:Talk header/sandbox/text. PokestarFan • Talk • Contributions 01:58, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

• Keep In my experience, we don't delete things like this just because it's possible to do without them. On the contrary, at most we mark them deprecated or historical or some such. --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 05:33, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
• Keep JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 15:15, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
• Keep --Az1568 (discuss • contribs) 18:52, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

The new creations of PokestarFanBot

Today this unapproved bot has created a group of pages to be reviewed (but I don't want to), sometimes under its owner account, consisting in some static lists of the books pages. However, there wasn't any previous discussion about these new subpages whose books authors didn't need, and they are redundant of the categories, the TOC and Special:PrefixIndex. So I think that it's just an experiment to keep in the PokestarFan's PC files or user subpages. JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 17:07, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

• Delete JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 17:07, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
• Delete Doesn't see a purpose to compensate for the overhead of these pages. Seems like a sort of thing to discuss extensively with the community before perhaps acting. The unapproved bot aspect is also not good. --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 18:01, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

So just delete all of the bot's pages? EDIT: I've gone ahead and blocked the bot as "Unapproved bot". Please leave me a msg on my page if this is incorrect. Thanks. Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 19:08, 23 September 2017 (UTC)