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Scribus[edit]

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Food Safety Guide[edit]

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LGBT Young Adult Literature/Annie on My Mind[edit]

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Linter SQL RDBMS[edit]

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English-Hanzi[edit]

This book is just a collection of phrases translated into Hanzi. This book should be scrapped and a new one started, and covers topics like food, how is your day, actions, etc. PokestarFan • Talk • Contributions 01:26, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

Examples from English-Hanzi[edit]

Train[edit]

  • English-Hanzi/Train: A train is a vehicle with a series of carriages. It runs on a railway. A train can carry a lot of passengers or cargoes.
This is not a page of copyright violation. --Efex3 (discusscontribs) 22:01, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
@Efex3: I did not list it here because it is a copy violation. I listed it here to show that it is a collection of sentences. PokestarFan • Talk • Contributions 16:11, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Trump 'looks forward to visiting China[edit]

For this example, I found this article on the BBC. PokestarFan • Talk • Contributions 18:46, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
This is wrong. This is from the policy:
Although we do not permit verbatim copies of pre-existing works, we do permit annotated texts, which are a kind of text that includes an original text within it and serves as a guide to reading or studying that text. Annotated editions of previously published source texts may only be written if the source text is compatible with the project's license.
BBC has a non-Creative Commons copyright license. The text is incompatible. Also, even if it were correctly licensed, this is not a guide to reading or studying that text. PokestarFan • Talk • Contributions 04:02, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
There are guides below the text helps to read and understand.--Efex3 (discusscontribs) 04:22, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
@Efex3: While that may be true, the text is still copyrighted. And also, here is the English guide:
US/ state secretary/ Rex Tillerson/ told/ China/ state chairman/ Xi Jinping, Ronald Trump/ president/ looking forward to/ visiting/ China, to enhance/ between both countries/ 's/ understanding.
Your book has not been verified, as you are using a translator. First of all, it is Donald Trump, not Ronald Trump. A native Hanzi speaker needs to check over the book. PokestarFan • Talk • Contributions 13:46, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
Deleted this one as unverified news that may be out of scope. As a native Hanzi, I will check other unverified news as well. This is not Wikinews.--Jusjih (discusscontribs) 06:07, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

More unverified news[edit]

I am listing more unverified news that should be deleted as out of scope:

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Jusjih (discusscontribs)

@Jusjih: News doesn't belong on Wikibooks, regardless of whether it's verified or not. (Nor could the Wikibooks administration afford to take on the burden of verifying news on top of what they do; speaking as a Wikinews reviewer, where we sag under that burden.) --Pi zero (discusscontribs) 02:03, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
Exactly. Does Wikinews accept verified early events to be written as news reports? If yes, I may want to join there as I cannot always catch up today's events, and some old news reports online are gone and accessible either by archive.org or no way. When reviewing the book, many are just simple facts that may likely be kept. Here are even more unverified news to likely delete:
@Pi zero: n:Wikinews:Newsworthiness#New information seems to exclude 8-day-old events, so I will not bother verifying unverified news to move to Wikinews. Am I correct?--Jusjih (discusscontribs) 01:46, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
@Jusjih: You are correct. --Pi zero (discusscontribs) 02:30, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
Deleted the above 10 pages while too old for Wikinews. Thanks, Pi zero. I will find more to list here.--Jusjih (discusscontribs) 06:01, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

More unverified news:

--Jusjih (discusscontribs) 01:24, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

Discussion of English-Hanzi[edit]

This book is a series of English-Chinese materials for language learning, but not a book of food, how is your day, actions, etc.--Efex3 (discusscontribs) 03:22, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

@Efex3: So is this book a collection of statements? If so, then should there not be another book that teaches individual words and phrases? PokestarFan • Talk • Contributions 03:30, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
This book contains a variety of materials used for language learning. It is better to have a method to search for related topics. As you are a software specialist, could you help create a method for searching related topics of this book?--Efex3 (discusscontribs) 04:02, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
What about {{Book search}}? JackPotte (discusscontribs) 08:16, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete I thought we had an ongoing discussion about deleting this book, in which the primary issue was copyright; a legal issue, not to be dismissed lightly. I find, though, that as part of some bookkeeping tasks that tbh I failed to check as closely as I presumably should have, that discussion was closed — in a nothing-more-to-be-done sort of way — and archived (at Wikibooks:Requests for deletion/English-Hanzi) despite what looks to me like a gradually forming consensus for deletion. It looks as if the most recent votes were by me and User:Dan Polansky, both for deletion. Did I misunderstand how all that ended? --Pi zero (discusscontribs) 14:01, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
The original discussion should not have been closed. On a related note, I'm also not sure why non-admins have been closing RFD's and RFPs anyways as they generally should get reviewed by an admin before that process happens. --Az1568 (discusscontribs) 18:50, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

You should delete the pages which are copyright violated, but should not to delete the whole book.--Efex3 (discusscontribs) 21:25, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

This was Efex3's response to copyright concerns in the previous discussion, as well. Dan Polansky's remarks there had already articulated the counterargument before the response. The key phrase in Dan Polansky's remarks was:
While not every page in the category suffers from this problem, it seems to be best to deal with the pages on a summary level, seeing that the approach taken by the author was reckless toward copyright. This should be deleted ASAP.
--Pi zero (discusscontribs) 13:00, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
The fact is that some of "copyright violated" examples are not true. Please see the previous discussion here--Efex3 (discusscontribs) 21:58, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
It is only a historical problem even though there is copyright problem in some pages.--Efex3 (discusscontribs) 14:13, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
We should act preemptively in regards to protecting the project from copyright infringement issues but on acting on our own guidance we should also refrain being too aggressive in our policing, and act only on what is a clear infringement resorting to more deep erasures if the copyright owner asks for a pull-down. There are logic reasons to act this way... --Panic (discusscontribs) 16:42, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
As a new administrator here, I plan to check the content to see which to keep or delete, but not to delete the whole book.--Jusjih (discusscontribs) 05:40, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
Recalling Dan Polansky's remark about "reckless toward copyright", and I'm not convinced the author suddenly knows better (the only example I recall was examined and found to have only made the problem worse), it doesn't seem to me that the Wikibooks adminsitration should be taking on the open-ended task of trying to apply the sort of copyright standards to all this material that the author has not been applying. --Pi zero (discusscontribs) 02:09, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
is this to be a phrasebook or sorts? Something like Omniglot, but for Mandarin phrases?If so, I can see the value of it. Artix Kreiger (discusscontribs) 02:35, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

Previous discussion of English-Hanzi[edit]

Comment I am transcluding the last discussion here. PokestarFan • Talk • Contributions 18:39, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

I have removed the transclusion of Wikibooks:Requests_for_deletion/English-Hanzi since that is very confusing. --Dan Polansky (discusscontribs) 19:57, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
To remind, the previous discussion is at Wikibooks:Requests for deletion/English-Hanzi. --Pi zero (discusscontribs) 13:06, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
*Please see the previous discussion here--Efex3 (discusscontribs) 17:22, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

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Open_and_Distance_Education/Course_Design/Overview[edit]

It is an orphan. I decided to put the content on the parent page "Course_Design".

@Rjbfigueroa: Done . Next time you can add a {{speedy}} tag. See Wikibooks:Deletion policy. --Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 14:10, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Python Programming/pyFormex[edit]

The website for the module is down, and so the page is not needed. PokestarFan • Talk • Contributions 00:26, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

  1. Delete Empty page. JackPotte (discusscontribs) 11:55, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
  2. Delete virtually empty page, aside from 1 sentence. Artix Kreiger (discusscontribs) 13:41, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
  3. Comment A Google search shows the website for the library has moved to http://www.nongnu.org/pyformex/ , so that issue doesn't justify deletion. It might be that that specific library is too niche a topic for the scope of the book, but in any case I feel like this isn't the right place for that discussion (as opposed to the talk pages of the book), at least at first. -- Duplode (discusscontribs) 23:24, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
  4. Keep The website http://www.nongnu.org/pyformex/ is not down; and pyformex is on pypi[1]. The page is a stub, but let us keep it until someone decides to expand on it. --Dan Polansky (discusscontribs) 09:40, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Merging multiple pages of Python Programming[edit]

I have merged these to Python Programming/3rd-party modules. PokestarFan • Talk • Contributions 21:19, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Keep There are at least two problems:
  1. You didn't add everything into Python Programming/3rd-party modules (eg: "import MySQLdb").
  2. The topic of Python Programming/3rd-party modules seems to large to me, and its content must be too long to avoid scrolling a lot when searching a needle in the haystack on a slow page. Moreover, this lack of precision is undesirable to create the links to the sister project (eg: w:numpy, w:PyQt), which could bring us more visitors.
JackPotte (discusscontribs) 09:46, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
Page merges inside a project only require community consensus if you seek reassurances regarding your actions, consensus should be gathered among the project's editors and a merge tag is not necessary, you do the job yourself unposed or express your "merge" concept on the project's talk page.
I move that this talk stream should indeed be move to the project's talk page and no merge tag be used on individual project pages (this is not Wikipedia).
PS: Page merges are distinct from deletions (like the one above on the same book space (deletions merit a discussion if content or structure is lost, as we do not outright delete stubs and proposed for deletion content may be of use elsewhere)). --Panic (discusscontribs) 11:24, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
Keep Per JackPotte and Panic. There would be no real gain out of such a merge; it would result in a potentially overlong page that merely agglutinates disjoint topics. --Duplode (discusscontribs) 23:31, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
Keep obviously. If the Python Programming book team (which is basically me) decided to introduce a nested chapter structure, they would do it by renaming, not by copying and deleting. --Dan Polansky (discusscontribs) 09:42, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Programming for Palm OS[edit]

Programming for Palm OS/SuperWaba[edit]

This page has been a stub since it was created 12 years ago. PalmOS no longer exists and SuperWaba no longer supports PalmOS, so I'm inclined to conclude that this page is never going to be expanded into anything useful.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:204:c900:919b:489f:5442:6216:25e8 (discusscontribs)

Nominated the entire book. PokestarFan • Talk • Contributions 18:45, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Deleting old GCSE Books[edit]

Most of the GCSE books seem to have been completely abandoned (with the last true edit being a decade ago). Furthermore, the specifications have changed, meaning that course materials are now radically different. - Neutrinopenguin 01/04/2018

It's not obvious because we're talking about more than 200 pages: Category:Subject:General_Certificate_of_Secondary_Education. So they could have an interest, at least historically. JackPotte (discusscontribs) 08:56, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
Since I am planning on writing new guides for them, would it be perhaps acceptable if I mentioned they are uncompleted and unfinished as well as linked from there to the new guides then?

Neutrinopenguin 10:58, 1 April 2018 (GMT)

Sure. JackPotte (discusscontribs) 13:13, 1 April 2018 (UTC)