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Welcome to the General reading room. On this page, Wikibookians are free to talk about the Wikibooks project in general. For proposals for improving Wikibooks, see the Proposals reading room.

Relation between Wikipedia and Wikibooks[edit]

I'm an admin in Persian WB. It seems that I should be aware of differences between Wikipedia and Wikibooks deeply. Even though the difference between Wikibooks and Wikisource has been well defined but the case for Wikipedia is yet vague. What is the differences and similarities between Wikipedia and Wikibooks? This guideline explains some similarities but it does not describes how to import pages from Wikipedia and how to use or dewikify them. --Doostdar (discusscontribs) 19:57, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Please go to Wikibooks:Requests for import to bring materials from Wikipedia.--Jusjih (discusscontribs) 21:15, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
@Doostdar: Regarding differences of Wikibooks from Wikipedia, to my understanding,
  • Wikibooks can go into great depth on a subject, much greater than would be allowed on Wikipedia; an encyclopedia is supposed to summarize/synopsize each topic it covers.
  • A book has overall structure, whereas a grouping of encyclopedia articles does not; a book's modules are usually meant to be read in a particular order, they typically follow various conventions that are common to that particular book but not to other books (nor to an encyclopedia, which often has its own conventions that most books don't follow).
  • A book is relatively self-contained, whereas a Wikipedia article goes out of its way to link to other articles quite freely. Within the text of a book (thus not counting various kinds of lists of external links), we're most willing to wikilink between parts of a single book, sometimes we'll wikilink to another book. Links to another sister (such as Wikipedia), let alone external links (outside the wikimedia sisterhood) are rare.
I've observed that each book is, to a significant extent, a microproject; all these microprojects have banded together to share a common administrative infrastructure, which makes a lot of sense because most of the individual books are orders of magnitude smaller than would ever justify having it own separate administration, but any book may have some differences of organization from all other books as well as all other sisters. --Pi zero (discusscontribs) 21:50, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
Is there any guide on how to dewikify? As a sample considering this page what changes should be applied? --Doostdar (discusscontribs) 13:30, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
For whatever it may be worth, template {{dewikify}} links to page WB:Dewikify. --Pi zero (discusscontribs) 15:06, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
Would someone please make a bot to dewikify red links? Manually dewikifying is cumbersome.--Jusjih (discusscontribs) 06:18, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
It's been tried before, and it doesn't work reliably. For example, piped links need a manual review to check which words should be left in the page. QuiteUnusual (discusscontribs) 10:28, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
Sounds like a good candidate for semi-automation, if I can get moving with the next phase of that. --Pi zero (discusscontribs) 12:47, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

{{BookCat}}[edit]

Hi, I was thinking of making an AWB run to add {{Bookcat}}. I was hoping to see if i could get a list of pages that needs it, aside from Subject pages and main topic pages. Would that be good? Artix Kreiger (discusscontribs) 22:36, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

@Artix Kreiger: The cases where it isn't used are very customized, and strike me as something for manual attention; I'm going through all the book categories now, a process that I've been at since April and am likely to finish sometime early in the new year. I think there are folks who go through adding {{BookCat}} to uncategorized content subpages. --Pi zero (discusscontribs) 23:39, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
Moreover my bot already teats the obvious Special:UncategorizedPages. JackPotte (discusscontribs) 18:10, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
ahh ok. Thank you. Artix Kreiger (discusscontribs) 22:49, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Wikidata request for comment on the ideal data import proccess[edit]

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Dear all

We are currently running a discussion on Wikidata about what the ideal data import process looks like. We want to get the thoughts of people who work on different Wikimedia projects who have different needs and knowledge of different kinds of data to make it our roadmap as inclusive as possible, please take a look.

Many thanks

John Cummings (discusscontribs) 01:29, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

Wikivoyage Edit-a-thon 2018[edit]

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A special edit-a-thon will be held at the English Wikivoyage through February 2018 to celebrate the fifth anniversary of Wikivoyage. The main goal of this edit-a-thon is to encourage new editors to share travel information at Wikivoyage. Anyone interested in contributing, whether by updating outdated information or by adding listings of prominent sites/businesses such as a prominent museums, restaurants or hotels, is more than welcome to participate in the edit-a-thon.

The edit-a-thon is going to be held at several other editions of Wikivoyage including the German, French, Spanish, Italian, Ukrainian, Russian, Portuguese, Hindi, Hebrew and the Chinese editions of Wikivoyage. In addition, the use of a central notice banner has been requested to promote the edit-a-thon. ויקיג'אנקי (discusscontribs) 16:54, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Out of curiosity, why was this message sent here? --Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 17:46, 17 January 2018 (UTC)