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Welcome to the General reading room. On this page, Wikibookians are free to talk about the Wikibooks project in general. For proposals for improving Wikibooks, see the Proposals reading room.

Hello, hello? Is this mic on?[edit]

In response to the message asking me to introduce myself: Elizabeth Penrose. I've had a few of my [SF/Fantasy/Genre] poems published, and you can find some of them on the web. Although I've made factual edits to Wikipedia (I like poetry & Pittsburgh history), most of my marks revise article grammar. Pittsburgh Poet (discusscontribs) 22:54, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

I'm Phil Torrance, 1990 BA Math with software engineering. I google as "americium dream" . Wikipaddn (discusscontribs) 03:37, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi. this computer science graduate student's M.O. seems to be to proofread while studying, so we also have a motive as to why I so smack SPSS around :-) With hopes to give Java EE its turn. I'm Gherson on wikipedia proper, but it's ok because notice I smile when I say that :-))) Regards, Gherson2 (discusscontribs) 17:03, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Changes to the default site typography coming soon[edit]

This week, the typography on Wikimedia sites will be updated for all readers and editors who use the default "Vector" skin. This change will involve new serif fonts for some headings, small tweaks to body content fonts, text size, text color, and spacing between elements. The schedule is:

  • April 1st: non-Wikipedia projects will see this change live
  • April 3rd: Wikipedias will see this change live

This change is very similar to the "Typography Update" Beta Feature that has been available on Wikimedia projects since November 2013. After several rounds of testing and with feedback from the community, this Beta Feature will be disabled and successful aspects enabled in the default site appearance. Users who are logged in may still choose to use another skin, or alter their personal CSS, if they prefer a different appearance. Local common CSS styles will also apply as normal, for issues with local styles and scripts that impact all users.

For more information:

-- Steven Walling (Product Manager) on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation's User Experience Design team

Tagging Other Pages[edit]

Sorry I'm quite new to Wikibooks and I apologise if this is a stupid question.

Basically we are doing a page for Technological Determinism. We are the only group doing this and thus we have been asked to engage with other groups.

I was wondering if there was a way in which we can hyperlink our page from pages that can be attributed to Technological Determinism.

Does anyone know if this can be done?

I'd be grateful of any help.

(TallNorthernIrishEthan (discusscontribs) 14:51, 3 April 2014 (UTC))

Er. Wikibooks is for books, rather than individual pages on a given topic. --Pi zero (discusscontribs) 15:28, 3 April 2014 (UTC)


I am writing a book on North Carolina and I want some suggestions on how I could separate the parts of the history section. StudiesWorld (discusscontribs) 21:47, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Looking at what you've just written on North Carolina/History seems like the way to go. One extra thing might be to put the years in brackets, e.g. Civil War (1860-1865). I know nothing about American history, not even sure if my date guess was close. Hopefully other editors may share their views here soon.--ЗAНИA Flag of Estonia.svgtalk 22:54, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
I don't know the dates exactly but I agree with that. I will work on getting those dates. StudiesWorld (discusscontribs) 23:30, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Check User self-nomination[edit]

Over at Requests for permissions I've nominated myself for Check User. Share your views or ask questions as you see fit.--ЗAНИA Flag of Estonia.svgtalk 17:10, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Introduction for GQ Freeman[edit]

I am a semi-retired engineer. I recently gave up the idea of becoming a high school science teacher in favor of trying to start a tiny, indie 3D graphics studio with a new friend. I'm endeavoring to add corrections/clarifications to "Blender 3D: Noob to Pro" as I slog my way through it.

Thank you for introducing yourself here. Good luck with the corrections and clarifications. If you have any questions feel free to post a message in here and someone, hopefully, will reply.--ЗAНИA Flag of Estonia.svgtalk 01:20, 16 April 2014 (UTC)


I come from the English Wikipedia, though I am also active on Commons. I've been adding a few things to the Bartending guide. I probably won't be around too much, but I'm definitely going to be keeping Wikibook in mind for future projects. There is a lot of cool stuff on here. Zellfaze (discusscontribs) 18:58, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Welcome! It is always nice to see a new face. Thenub314 (talk) 19:56, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Media Viewer[edit]

Greetings, my apologies for writing in English.

I wanted to let you know that Media Viewer will be released to this wiki in the coming weeks. Media Viewer allows readers of Wikimedia projects to have an enhanced view of files without having to visit the file page, but with more detail than a thumbnail. You can try Media Viewer out now by turning it on in your Beta Features. If you do not enjoy Media Viewer or if it interferes with your work after it is turned on you will be able to disable Media Viewer as well in your preferences. I invite you to share what you think about Media Viewer and how it can be made better in the future.

Thank you for your time. - Keegan (WMF) 21:29, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

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Lidepla wikibook[edit]

Hi all! I'm from Russia and I would like to make a translation of Russian wikibook on Lingwa de planeta. Hope you will edit my English, when necessary. Thank you! --Sunnynai (discusscontribs) 16:02, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Hello Sunnynai. I am Vishal. A warm welcome to the world of the books (though not physical, but still a vast one). It is really appreciative to know that you are contributing for the good. Please feel free to ask any time, anything. All the very best. :)

Danke Schôn. Vishal Bakhai - WorksFlag of India.svg 18:42, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Twitter: WeAreWikipedia[edit]

The @WeAreWikipedia account on Twitter is run by a different Wikipedian each week. This week it's me, and I'm trying to include something about each sister project. Do drop by, and follow it if that's your thing. Pigsonthewing (discusscontribs) 19:57, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Authority control[edit]

I have imported the template {{Authority control}} and several sub-templates from simple.Wikipedia - you can see an example on my user page. The same template (or variants) is in use on several Wikipedias, Wikidata, Commons Wikiquote and Wikisource. See w:WP:Authority control for background.

The template links to several library-catalogue authority databases, such as w:VIAF and w:ISNI.

Of particular note is the w:ORCID parameter. As explained at W:WP:ORCID, individual contributors may register for an ORCID identifier, and then use it on their contributions/ user page here.

I am the Wikipedian- [sic: Wikimedian-] in-Residence at ORCID, and happy to answer any questions about that system and its use in Wikimedia projects.

Please consider this an invitation to register for an ORCID identifier, and to use it on your own user page. Pigsonthewing (discusscontribs) 20:29, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Media Viewer is now live on this wiki[edit]

Media Viewer lets you see images in larger size


The Wikimedia Foundation's Multimedia team is happy to announce that Media Viewer was just released on this site today.

Media Viewer displays images in larger size when you click on their thumbnails, to provide a better viewing experience. Users can now view images faster and more clearly, without having to jump to separate pages — and its user interface is more intuitive, offering easy access to full-resolution images and information, with links to the file repository for editing. The tool has been tested extensively across all Wikimedia wikis over the past six months as a Beta Feature and has been released to the largest Wikipedias, all language Wikisources, and the English Wikivoyage already.

If you do not like this feature, you can easily turn it off by clicking on "Disable Media Viewer" at the bottom of the screen, pulling up the information panel (or in your preferences) whether you have an account or not. Learn more in this Media Viewer Help page.

Please let us know if you have any questions or comments about Media Viewer. You are invited to share your feedback in this discussion on in any language, to help improve this feature. You are also welcome to take this quick survey in English, en français, o español.

We hope you enjoy Media Viewer. Many thanks to all the community members who helped make it possible. - Fabrice Florin (WMF) (talk) 21:54, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

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laptop maintenance[edit]

Does there already exist a wikibook -- or a section of a wikibook -- that lists typical periodic laptop maintenance tasks?

How To Assemble A Desktop PC/Choosing the parts briefly mentions cleaning the screen.

Minimizing Hard Disk Drive Failure and Data Loss/Data Reduction mentions "routine cleanup".

Minimizing Hard Disk Drive Failure and Data Loss/Data Redundancy mentions backups, but I am surprised at its insistence that "having a backup of all their data can be entirely impractical", and its implication that backups must be done manually (rather than, say, scheduling automated backups every night at 1 am).

Where can I find a listing of all the typical periodic laptop maintenance tasks together on one page? If one does not exist, which wikibook would be the most appropriate for starting a rough draft of such a list? --DavidCary (discusscontribs) 06:06, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

I don't think there is one... I will see what I can find. QuiteUnusual (discusscontribs) 14:09, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

I introduce myself[edit]

Lafcadio, my username, is from Lafcadio Hearn, who was a famous New Orleanian who edited a cookbook of creole cookery. Subsequently he went to Japan, where he is more famous than here.

I am from a creole family in the country, along river road. I have lived my entire adult life in New Orleans, however, and greatly admire its authentic cuisine, which is often confused with cajun cuisine. Creole cuisine is based on the haute cuisine of France, with the addition of ingredients from the new world and Africa.

I am putting my family recipes in the Wikipedia cookbook, in the hope of preserving them for posterity. Most of these are my mother's recipes, but some are recipes that I have obtained from friends or adapted from cook books, and used for years.

I hope the recipes are not subject to editing, since I am trying to preserve their authenticity. ```` —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lafcadio (discusscontribs) 13:52, 16 July 2014

Another introduction[edit]

Hi! I just edited the 8th grade science book, and I was hoping someone could take a look. I generally work on Wikipedia, but I thought to give Wikibooks a try. Nice to meet everyone! JonathanHopeThisIsUnique (discusscontribs) 19:52, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Looks good to me; and welcome! QuiteUnusual (discusscontribs) 13:44, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Introducing myself[edit]

Hello to everyone, I am posting this as I saw a message on profile page to introduce myself. I am medical graduate from India ,currently pursuing PG in Radiology and also preparing for some more exams. I like to untangle the anything that i feel is too complicated to my liking and i good at it (at least that is what my colleagues have told me). Ever I started my med school preps , their were just way too many things to cram in my brain (which shrinks a little every day) , so i started to make jingles out the first alphabets. I will most likely be contributing a lot of my mnemonics to this site and messing with others , and if i ever manage to write a book , it will happen here at Wikibooks. —Preceding unsigned comment by Randjo (discusscontribs) added before 18:22, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Letter petitioning WMF to reverse recent decisions[edit]

The Wikimedia Foundation recently created a new feature, "superprotect" status. The purpose is to prevent pages from being edited by elected administrators -- but permitting WMF staff to edit them. It has been put to use in only one case: to protect the deployment of the Media Viewer software on German Wikipedia, in defiance of a clear decision of that community to disable the feature by default, unless users decide to enable it.

If you oppose these actions, please add your name to this letter. If you know non-Wikimedians who support our vision for the free sharing of knowledge, and would like to add their names to the list, please ask them to sign an identical version of the letter on

-- JurgenNL (talk) 17:35, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

Process ideas for software development[edit]


I am notifying you that a brainstorming session has been started on Meta to help the Wikimedia Foundation increase and better affect community participation in software development across all wiki projects. Basically, how can you be more involved in helping to create features on Wikimedia projects? We are inviting all interested users to voice their ideas on how communities can be more involved and informed in the product development process at the Wikimedia Foundation.

I and the rest of my team welcome you to participate. We hope to see you on Meta.

Kind regards, -- Rdicerb (WMF) talk 22:15, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

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Featured books advertisement[edit]

Please remove that featured books advertisement appearing at the top of pages. It has been here for quite a lot of time, it is unproductive (just like the featured books process itself), and it gets increasingly annoying. I must have hidden it multiple times, and it still keeps appearing. From some computers, it is even impossible to hide, for whatever technical reasons. -- Your Wikibooks contributor, Dan Polansky (discusscontribs) 17:30, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

Yes. --Good afternoon (discusscontribs) 02:38, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
As I recall, the original plan was to set up a sitenotice like en.wn has most of the time, where there's a set of several community reminders/invitations, and the sitenotice selects one of them randomly. We hoped to have several here, too, but hadn't gotten to more than just that one.
Would a rotating message like that be equally obnoxious to you? (I don't recall every hearing a complaint about it over there, so I wonder if the difference could have to do with the pshychology of the rotating message, which doesn't hit one thing nearly as hard as featured books is being hit here.) --Pi zero (discusscontribs) 04:25, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
@Dan Polansky, Good afternoon: I'm very interested in understanding this, because I'd been hoping (one of these days, in my copious free time) to put together a rotating set of messages such as en.wn has. --Pi zero (discusscontribs) 04:29, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Vietnamese postage stamp[edit]

Good day! There is article about a bug Anoplophora horsfieldi. Whether it is possible at the end of this article in gallery to place the image a Vietnamese stamp of 1977 with this bug? --Matsievsky (discusscontribs) 09:39, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
Second question. There is category for bug Anoplophora horsfieldi Category:Anoplophora_horsfieldi. Whether it is possible in this category the image a Vietnamese stamp of 1977 with this bug? --Matsievsky (discusscontribs) 09:56, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Depends on whether the image itself is qualified. Artwork on a stamp is certainly intellectual work and would normally be a no-no, but a quick search on the commons shows a lot of stamps in the inventory--but none for Vietnam. You'd be better off posting your question there, and if you have such a photo, asking what the stamp criteria are. A quick browse did find a discussion in a 2007 Village Pump archive about a PD-license template for tagging such, and a few other search links, if read may find more. No mention in the FAQ, so don't bother with that! Try making the post above again on one of these pages. Good luck. // FrankB 21:12, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

On your second question: a category here wouldn't be useful unless you were writing a book on the subject. But yes, one can be created, speaking technically. However, The images there on the Commons—it's whole purpose is to store media for all Wikimedia projects—can directly be used here simply by adding the page title in a standard wikimarkup image link like this:

[[File:Some image name|thumb|400px|Some Caption|alt=Caption for the vision impaired]],
  • where, the width (400px) and thumb go together.
  • Otherwise the image, if large, will fill the page width.
  • The width is defaulted as well in user preferences, so may be left out.

That's the basics. Good luck again! // Frank FrankB 21:25, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

        • Thank you very much. Sorry my explanation. The problem is that Vietnamese stamp images haven't free licenze. Matsievsky (discusscontribs) 22:16, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Grants to improve your project[edit]

Greetings! The Individual Engagement Grants program is accepting proposals for funding new experiments from September 1st to 30th. Your idea could improve Wikimedia projects with a new tool or gadget, a better process to support community-building on your wiki, research on an important issue, or something else we haven't thought of yet. Whether you need $200 or $30,000 USD, Individual Engagement Grants can cover your own project development time in addition to hiring others to help you.

How do you make a test book?[edit]

Hi everyone! I'm Jonathan. :) I usually make pretty minor edits. I wanted to do something pretty big now (making a new book/reorganizing an old one [Vegan Cuisine]), but I wanted to make sure that I won't be messing up anything, so I thought making a test first, and showing the results if they aren't obviously awful, would be a good idea. Right now it's basically a bunch of links (it's a cookbook, and they seem to normally be like this, although I'm not sure). I want to turn it into a proper book, with each heading a chapter and each recipe a page, and possibly adding reason as to why people eat vegan food, and a history of veganism, plus any other stuff I (and other people who might be interested :)) can think of. Thanks for reading! JonathanHopeThisIsUnique (discusscontribs) 19:41, 3 September 2014 (UTC) Edit: I feel so silly. I noticed the sandbox button right after submitting this! :)

This is a little bit tricky because of the way the Cookbook works. However, if you are extending it beyond cooking then it might be reasonable to put the content in the main space instead. The book Using Wikibooks is a good introduction to everything you need to know to structure a new book so I'd start by reading that then ask for any further clarification here. QuiteUnusual (discusscontribs) 17:21, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
Hello Jonathan, I believe, you would be able to complete this book. In case you require any assistance, you can contact Xania, or other editors out here. Please feel free to ask anytime. Jai Jinendra. Vishal Bakhai - WorksFlag of India.svg 10:40, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for replying to me, everyone! I'll go look at Using Wikibooks and ask for help when I need it. I've kind of decided to get more comfortable here before doing this, and am editing some other books right now to become more comfortable, but this is really appreciated! :) JonathanHopeThisIsUnique (discusscontribs) 18:22, 14 September 2014 (UTC)