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Welcome to the Proposals reading room. On this page, Wikibookians are free to talk about suggestions for improving Wikibooks.


Sharing[edit]

It dawned on me earlier that Wikibooks is one of the few websites which I regularly use which doesn't include buttons for sharing pages (books) with various social networks. Digging around showed that this had been discussed many times before on W'pedia (here but has such a proposal taken place in Wikibooks? I've read the arguments against the idea and understand how it might promote certain other websites and so on but when more and more traffic is coming from mobile devices it seems like the obvious way forward. Copying and pasting a URL and then switching to a VK or Facebook app to post the link is quite a chore on a mobile device.--ЗAНИA Flag of Estonia.svgtalk 01:16, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

n:Template:Social bookmarks. --Pi zero (discusscontribs) 02:49, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
With that precedent in mind, I think it's an interesting idea; but, where would you envision putting the share buttons? For example, if we wanted them per-book, and at the bottom of the book's main page, we could add them to template {{subjects}} (with some care, since there might be some books that don't put {{subjects}} in the standard place). Sharing per-book makes a certain amount of sense to me, because the point of our project is the books as coherent units, rather than just collections of pages (which is Wikipedia's turf). On the other hand, there are times when a particular page is of interest, and very much so in the Cookbook subproject. --Pi zero (discusscontribs) 16:21, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
I'd say that share buttons at the foot of the page would be the best idea. The buttons would be for sharing the whole book with the exception of Cookbook pages. But what are the negatives of doing this? I don't fully understand why Wikipedia rejected it - it seems like an obvious idea to me but it seems to have been repeatedly shot down.--ЗAНИA Flag of Estonia.svgtalk 19:12, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
Well, bluntly, the Wikipedian community plays headgames with itself. They have this virulently anti-elitist tradition, yet in openly acknowledging they aren't themselves a reliable source they nurse an inferiority complex that compels them to put on the trappings of elitism. Share-links would be plebian.
(I choose to believe Wikipedia isn't beyond redemption. I do. But I think they've gotten themselves into a hole they can't dig themselves out of; it's going to be up to their sister projects to succeed and show them how it can be done. Not a short-term goal, but one I think worth striving for.) --Pi zero (discusscontribs) 19:51, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
I'd welcome it being made easier to socially share Wikibooks content, especially on mobile devices: it might go some way to addressing the disparity between Wikibooks' quality and how well known it is. On the "per-book" versus "per-page" issue, I request that avoid paternalism and put as much as possible in the hands of the user. This fits with the Wikimedia ethos of content freely reusable by anyone for any purpose. Say I find the page Communication_Theory/Uncertainty_Reduction and want to share it with colleagues or students: I'd hope the page itself would be shared, not the entire book on the assumption that the book is intended as a coherent unit. Leave it to the user to share what they think is worth sharing, rather than deciding on their behalf. Cheers, MartinPoulter (discusscontribs) 17:16, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Archiving[edit]

Is it easy to change the frequency of archiving for the various Reading Rooms. Wikibooks (or at least the Reading Rooms) is a lot less active than in the past and it's a pain returning after a break to have to plough through all of the various archives. Seems to be archiving everything after 21 days of no activity - would it be feasible to change this to 45 or 60 days? Also noticed that Wikibooks:Reading_room/Archives didn't have lists for 2013 so I've added them.--ЗAНИA Flag of Estonia.svgtalk 23:42, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Each page should have a template call at the top to {{User:MiszaBot/config}}. One of the parameters is  algo = old(21d)  which can presumably be changed from 21 to 45 or 60 with the desired efect. I'd be okay with 60. --Pi zero (discusscontribs) 01:24, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
Great so it's that simple. I'll give it a go some time. Thanks.--ЗAНИA Flag of Estonia.svgtalk 01:44, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
Done. Now 50 days. --ЗAНИA Flag of Estonia.svgtalk 18:07, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Why is there no literature in Hindi?[edit]

HI, I AM JATIN KUMAR CHOPRA & WAS JUST LOOKING FOR SOME GREAT WORK IN INDIAN LITERATURE & LIKE EVERYONE ELSE WANTS TO READ IN LANGUAGE IN WHICH I GENERALLY SPEAK,WRITE & THINK.... BUT TO HUGE DISMAY FOUND THAT NOWHERE...

You can find Hindi books at Hindi Wikibooks. --darklama 13:53, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
More literary material will be at Hindi Wikisource [1]. Recent Runes (discusscontribs) 19:16, 22 April 2014 (UTC)