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Welcome to the General reading room. On this page, Wikibookians are free to talk about the Wikibooks project in general. For proposals for improving Wikibooks, see the Proposals reading room.

New template to replace magic words[edit]

Template:ISBN I have ported over w:Template:ISBN and w:Module:Check isxn from en.wp. Magic words as links are being phased out and although we don't have to replace all instances of them now, they will all be removed from MediaWiki in 2017. See mw:Requests_for_comment/Future_of_magic_links. We have about 1,350 entries in Category:Pages using ISBN magic links. —Justin (koavf)TCM 18:30, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Any bot could find these space or carriage return delimiters:
  1. "ISBN ([0-9]*)( |\n)" -> "{{ISBN|$1}}$2"
  2. "PMID ([0-9]*)( |\n)" -> "{{PMID|$1}}$2"
  3. "RFC ([0-9]*)( |\n)" -> "{{RFC|$1}}$2"
JackPotte (discusscontribs) 00:53, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
@JackPotte: Correct. I just figured I would alert the community in case others weren't aware. I can easily do it myself. Do you think I should? —Justin (koavf)TCM 02:14, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
In one week after this message the consensus will be made. JackPotte (discusscontribs) 11:57, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Appearance of categories[edit]

Please change The way that categories have been restructured here is probably fine semantically but I have to say that it is garish and almost unusable. I don't know why it was rearranged to look the way it does but the subcategories stretching across the entire page makes category pages much larger than they need to be, the tiny roll-over text when I go to click is hostile to users (and probably very difficult for some users with medical conditions to even click), and there is a curious side effect of some kind of transclusion so that undesirable effects happen to categories. E.g. Category:Remembering the Templars transcludes the mammoth 300% text from the title page. I've been encountering problems with this layout for several weeks now and I can't imagine that I'm the only one. I'd like to request that the styling be changed to something more akin to every other WMF project and that someone review the manner that {{book category header}}/{{BookCat}} transcludes unwanted information. —Justin (koavf)TCM 01:08, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

The wiki software is severely misdesigned, which said, it is possible to apply a patch to the book page to fix it. I've just done that for Remembering the Templars. It will likely be necessary to redesign {{BookCat}} to avoid the issue, but for now I've been applying the patch to book pages as necessary.

The problem is this: {{BookCat}} when used on a book-category page extracts category information from the main page of the book, and it then discards everything else from the main page of the book. But, the wiki software is misdesigned so that certain things from the transcluded page are applied to the transcluding page even though the transcluded text is discarded. This is true of footnotes (which, fortunately, most wikibooks don't use), and, as you point out, it's evidently also also true of the DISPLAYTITLE magic word. I see it as part of the Foundation's war on wiki markup that they would build in this perverse behavior that interferes with freely transcluding wiki pages; but, I take it for granted the Foundation doesn't care about wiki markup, even though it's one of the key elements that makes the sisterhood work. --Pi zero (discusscontribs) 04:58, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

@Pi zero: I knew you would see this. I have seen this transclusion problem before--in point of fact, I found this because these categories are all in a tracking category (Category:Pages_using_ISBN_magic_links), in spite of not having the actual code in them to add them to said category. Likewise, something need to be done about the styling and the weird way that the font contracts upon focus. —Justin (koavf)TCM 06:04, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
@Koavf: Um. Could you give examples of what these problems? --Pi zero (discusscontribs) 12:20, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
@Pi zero: If you go to any category--e.g. Category:Remembering the Templars--and when you hover over the divs for either a subcategory or the "More Recent Additions/Modifications" table, then the text changes size for some reason. Why? It makes it so that when I go to click, the text runs away from my mouse. —Justin (koavf)TCM 17:43, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
@Pi zero: Also, this is the only project where Special:Notifications doesn't have a drop-down menu but takes me to a new page, even if all the scripts have loaded on the page. —Justin (koavf)TCM 17:47, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
@Koavf: As best I can tell, the two things you're describing — the text size and the notifications thing — don't happen for me. Could be something odd about your preferences here? (Notifications works for me the same way here as on other projects.) --Pi zero (discusscontribs) 18:04, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
@Pi zero: Are you serious? That is so weird. What skin are you using? I have Monobook. —Justin (koavf)TCM 20:10, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
Monobook for me also. --Pi zero (discusscontribs) 20:36, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
@Koavf: These problems sound like exactly what I was getting the other day here. It turned out to be a JS error in a gadget, which was stopping the rest of the page's JS from loading. Do you get any errors in your browser's JS console? Try turning off all gadgets and see if the problem goes away. Sam Wilson 22:23, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
@Samwilson:, @Pi zero: I had the Gadget for "Color-Coded Categories" turned on and that's it. Thanks guys. —Justin (koavf)TCM 22:31, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Making PDF look better.[edit]

Hello everyone, it is my first time here :). My name is Moushira, and I am part of the community engagement team at Wikimedia Foundation. The Reading team is currently working on enhancing the PDF rendering output of printed articles and books, for more information, please check the page here which explains the changes, and please, add comments or questions, if any. Thank you! --Melamrawy (WMF) (discusscontribs) 19:44, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

Hello and welcome, @Melamrawy (WMF). It is very good to hear of improvements to PDF renderning. The limitations of the currently available renderer make it inadequate for many wikibooks (the output for programming books, for instance, is unusable due to lack of support for code blocks). I would love to see that change, as print version generation is highly relevant for Wikibooks. Cheers, Duplode (discusscontribs) 06:45, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

De-Recognition of Wikimedia Hong Kong[edit]

This is an update from the Wikimedia Affiliations Committee. Translations are available.

Recognition as a Wikimedia movement affiliate — a chapter, thematic organization, or user group — is a privilege that allows an independent group to officially use the Wikimedia trademarks to further the Wikimedia mission.

The principal Wikimedia movement affiliate in the Hong Kong region is Wikimedia Hong Kong, a Wikimedia chapter recognized in 2008. As a result of Wikimedia Hong Kong’s long-standing non-compliance with reporting requirements, the Wikimedia Foundation and the Affiliations Committee have determined that Wikimedia Hong Kong’s status as a Wikimedia chapter will not be renewed after February 1, 2017.

If you have questions about what this means for the community members in your region or language areas, we have put together a basic FAQ. We also invite you to visit the main Wikimedia movement affiliates page for more information on currently active movement affiliates and more information on the Wikimedia movement affiliates system.

Posted by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of the Affiliations Committee, 16:25, 13 February 2017 (UTC) • Please help translate to your languageGet help

Review of initial updates on Wikimedia movement strategy process[edit]

Note: Apologies for cross-posting and sending in English. Message is available for translation on Meta-Wiki.

The Wikimedia movement is beginning a movement-wide strategy discussion, a process which will run throughout 2017. For 15 years, Wikimedians have worked together to build the largest free knowledge resource in human history. During this time, we've grown from a small group of editors to a diverse network of editors, developers, affiliates, readers, donors, and partners. Today, we are more than a group of websites. We are a movement rooted in values and a powerful vision: all knowledge for all people. As a movement, we have an opportunity to decide where we go from here.

This movement strategy discussion will focus on the future of our movement: where we want to go together, and what we want to achieve. We hope to design an inclusive process that makes space for everyone: editors, community leaders, affiliates, developers, readers, donors, technology platforms, institutional partners, and people we have yet to reach. There will be multiple ways to participate including on-wiki, in private spaces, and in-person meetings. You are warmly invited to join and make your voice heard.

The immediate goal is to have a strategic direction by Wikimania 2017 to help frame a discussion on how we work together toward that strategic direction.

Regular updates are being sent to the Wikimedia-l mailing list, and posted on Meta-Wiki. Beginning with this message, monthly reviews of these updates will be sent to this page as well. Sign up to receive future announcements and monthly highlights of strategy updates on your user talk page.

Here is a review of the updates that have been sent so far:

More information about the movement strategy is available on the Meta-Wiki 2017 Wikimedia movement strategy portal.

Posted by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation, 20:31, 15 February 2017 (UTC) • Please help translate to your languageGet help

Questions before starting a book to review citizenship laws of the world[edit]

Inspired by [1] originally but no longer at the US Defense Security Service and [2] featuring a PDF authored by Office of Personnel Management of the US government, perhaps the texts qualify for s:Template:PD-USGov? If so, I would like to copy the texts with known updates to start a book titled "Citizenship", with subpages per country, then further subpages to teach readers how to acquire or lose the citizenship of a country and how to apply for a passport of a country, when information is available. Proposed examples include "Citizenship/United States", "Citizenship/United States/Naturalization", "Citizenship/United States/Loss", "Citizenship/United States/Passport", etc. However, the texts under "ANY QUESTIONS" in each country will not be copied here while not very good for readers outside the USA. Any comments before I start, please?--Jusjih (discusscontribs) 03:54, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

I have uploaded File:US OPM Citizenship Laws of the World 2001.pdf to Wikimedia Commons and I would like to use its text to be updated here.--Jusjih (discusscontribs) 02:28, 21 February 2017 (UTC)