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De-Recognition of Wikimedia Hong Kong[edit]

This is an update from the Wikimedia Affiliations Committee. Translations are available.

Recognition as a Wikimedia movement affiliate — a chapter, thematic organization, or user group — is a privilege that allows an independent group to officially use the Wikimedia trademarks to further the Wikimedia mission.

The principal Wikimedia movement affiliate in the Hong Kong region is Wikimedia Hong Kong, a Wikimedia chapter recognized in 2008. As a result of Wikimedia Hong Kong’s long-standing non-compliance with reporting requirements, the Wikimedia Foundation and the Affiliations Committee have determined that Wikimedia Hong Kong’s status as a Wikimedia chapter will not be renewed after February 1, 2017.

If you have questions about what this means for the community members in your region or language areas, we have put together a basic FAQ. We also invite you to visit the main Wikimedia movement affiliates page for more information on currently active movement affiliates and more information on the Wikimedia movement affiliates system.

Posted by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of the Affiliations Committee, 16:25, 13 February 2017 (UTC) • Please help translate to your languageGet help

Signed for the bot. --George Ho (discusscontribs) 01:28, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Review of initial updates on Wikimedia movement strategy process[edit]

Note: Apologies for cross-posting and sending in English. Message is available for translation on Meta-Wiki.

The Wikimedia movement is beginning a movement-wide strategy discussion, a process which will run throughout 2017. For 15 years, Wikimedians have worked together to build the largest free knowledge resource in human history. During this time, we've grown from a small group of editors to a diverse network of editors, developers, affiliates, readers, donors, and partners. Today, we are more than a group of websites. We are a movement rooted in values and a powerful vision: all knowledge for all people. As a movement, we have an opportunity to decide where we go from here.

This movement strategy discussion will focus on the future of our movement: where we want to go together, and what we want to achieve. We hope to design an inclusive process that makes space for everyone: editors, community leaders, affiliates, developers, readers, donors, technology platforms, institutional partners, and people we have yet to reach. There will be multiple ways to participate including on-wiki, in private spaces, and in-person meetings. You are warmly invited to join and make your voice heard.

The immediate goal is to have a strategic direction by Wikimania 2017 to help frame a discussion on how we work together toward that strategic direction.

Regular updates are being sent to the Wikimedia-l mailing list, and posted on Meta-Wiki. Beginning with this message, monthly reviews of these updates will be sent to this page as well. Sign up to receive future announcements and monthly highlights of strategy updates on your user talk page.

Here is a review of the updates that have been sent so far:

More information about the movement strategy is available on the Meta-Wiki 2017 Wikimedia movement strategy portal.

Posted by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation, 20:31, 15 February 2017 (UTC) • Please help translate to your languageGet help

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Overview #2 of updates on Wikimedia movement strategy process[edit]

Note: Apologies for cross-posting and sending in English. This message is available for translation on Meta-Wiki.

As we mentioned last month, the Wikimedia movement is beginning a movement-wide strategy discussion, a process which will run throughout 2017. This movement strategy discussion will focus on the future of our movement: where we want to go together, and what we want to achieve.

Regular updates are being sent to the Wikimedia-l mailing list, and posted on Meta-Wiki. Each month, we are sending overviews of these updates to this page as well. Sign up to receive future announcements and monthly highlights of strategy updates on your user talk page.

Here is a overview of the updates that have been sent since our message last month:

More information about the movement strategy is available on the Meta-Wiki 2017 Wikimedia movement strategy portal.

Posted by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation, 19:44, 9 March 2017 (UTC) • Please help translate to your languageGet help

Signed for the bot. --George Ho (discusscontribs) 01:28, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Start of the 2017 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees elections[edit]

Please accept our apologies for cross-posting this message. This message is available for translation on Meta-Wiki.

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On behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee, I am pleased to announce that self-nominations are being accepted for the 2017 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees Elections.

The Board of Trustees (Board) is the decision-making body that is ultimately responsible for the long-term sustainability of the Wikimedia Foundation, so we value wide input into its selection. More information about this role can be found on Meta-Wiki. Please read the letter from the Board of Trustees calling for candidates.

The candidacy submission phase will last from April 7 (00:00 UTC) to April 20 (23:59 UTC).

We will also be accepting questions to ask the candidates from April 7 to April 20. You can submit your questions on Meta-Wiki.

Once the questions submission period has ended on April 20, the Elections Committee will then collate the questions for the candidates to respond to beginning on April 21.

The goal of this process is to fill the three community-selected seats on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees. The election results will be used by the Board itself to select its new members.

The full schedule for the Board elections is as follows. All dates are inclusive, that is, from the beginning of the first day (UTC) to the end of the last.

  • April 7 (00:00 UTC) – April 20 (23:59 UTC) – Board nominations
  • April 7 – April 20 – Board candidates questions submission period
  • April 21 – April 30 – Board candidates answer questions
  • May 1 – May 14 – Board voting period
  • May 15–19 – Board vote checking
  • May 20 – Board result announcement goal

In addition to the Board elections, we will also soon be holding elections for the following roles:

  • Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC)
    • There are five positions being filled. More information about this election will be available on Meta-Wiki.
  • Funds Dissemination Committee Ombudsperson (Ombuds)
    • One position is being filled. More information about this election will be available on Meta-Wiki.

Please note that this year the Board of Trustees elections will be held before the FDC and Ombuds elections. Candidates who are not elected to the Board are explicitly permitted and encouraged to submit themselves as candidates to the FDC or Ombuds positions after the results of the Board elections are announced.

More information on this year's elections can be found on Meta-Wiki. Any questions related to the election can be posted on the election talk page on Meta-Wiki, or sent to the election committee's mailing list, board-elections(at)wikimedia.org.

On behalf of the Election Committee,
Katie Chan, Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee
Joe Sutherland, Community Advocate, Wikimedia Foundation

Posted by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee, 03:36, 7 April 2017 (UTC) • Please help translate to your languageGet help

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The strategy discussion. The Cycle 2 will start on May 5[edit]

The first cycle of the Wikimedia movement strategy process recently concluded. During that period, we were discussing the main directions for the Wikimedia movement over the next 15 years. There are more than 1500 summary statements collected from the various communities, but unfortunately, none from your local discussion (the only comment visible there was imported from Meta). The strategy facilitators and many volunteers have summarized the discussions of the previous month. A quantitative analysis of the statements will be posted on Meta for translation this week, alongside the report from the Berlin conference.

The second cycle will begin soon. It's set to begin on May 5 and run until May 31. During that period, you will be invited to dive into the main topics that emerged in the first cycle, discuss what they mean, which ones are the most important and why, and what their practical implications are. This work will be informed and complemented by research involving new voices that haven’t traditionally been included in strategy discussions, like readers, partners, and experts. Together, we will begin to make sense of all this information and organize it into a meaningful guiding document, which we will all collectively refine during the third and last cycle in June−July.

We want to help your community to be more engaged with the discussions in the next cycle. Now, we are looking for volunteers who could

  • tell us where to announce the start of the Cycle 2, and how to do that, so we could be sure the majority of your community is informed and has a chance to feel committed, and
  • facilitate the Cycle 2 discussions here, on Wikibooks.

We are looking forward to your feedback!

Base (WMF) and SGrabarczuk (WMF) (discusscontribs) 16:09, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

@SGrabarczuk (WMF): Seems to me your process is inherently (and probably irredeemably) flawed. Surely it can't be a surprise that you get no feedback from a project the Foundation has dissed for years. A veteran Wikibookian would naturally expect that participation in the process would be time wasted, and that the Foundation would use their participation to help legitimize whatever the Foundation wanted to do anyway; the difference with non-participation would be that the Foundation would use that as an excuse for ignoring us, which they would do anyway, and without our having invested profitless time in it. --Pi zero (discusscontribs) 17:52, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
I disagree. The movement and the Foundation are two different beings, and now, we're running a strategy process for the former. The movement has many stakeholders: there are many wikis, developers, readers, long-term donors, affiliates, partners (like GLAM institutions). All of them are to be heard and are being heard, so please, don't imply that there is a match WMF vs. anyone. SGrabarczuk (WMF) (discusscontribs) 18:20, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
@SGrabarczuk (WMF): Realistically that's a fiction. The "movement", in that sense, is an invention of the Foundation. The Foundation is a centralized organization that, by the nature of such organizations, seeks to centrally control, including defining the rules of the game. The " (WMF)" at the end of your username defies the claim that it's not a Foundation process.

Whatever one calls the evolved means by which such organizations manipulate the perceptions of their personnel, you're within its field of influence. I'm outside. What I see from here is, a stark contradiction between the Foundation (not its personnel) and the volunteers. A striking pattern I've observed amongst WMF personnel is that they pretty consistently underestimate the schism by a huge margin. The problem isn't just that the Foundation needs to "communicate better" with the volunteers, the Foundation's basic objectives (in practice, not on paper) are actively counter-productive. This is visible from a quick list of key concerns from the volunteer side. The sisterhood is a bottom-up decentralized structure, with the primordial goal of empowering The People to have a voice in information providing (of course it sounds idealistic — idealism is the required fuel of all volunteer-driven efforts), wiki markup is the key technical device that makes it possible, and societal evils combated notably include propaganda. The Foundation, as a top-down centralized structure, inevitably seeks to centralize control and thereby disempowers volunteer control of infrastructure, notably including sidelining and undermining wiki markup. As for propaganda... well. --Pi zero (discusscontribs) 21:11, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, but WMF is younger than Wikipedia. My home Polish Wikipedia was primarily outside of the Wikimedia umbrella and branding, before WMF was established, and simply it's not true that the movement is an invention of WMF. It's precisely opposite. Let's talk about Wikimedia without mentioning WMF. It's possible. SGrabarczuk (WMF) (discusscontribs) 21:35, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
Dzień dobry @SGrabarczuk (WMF): you must know some of the disses concerning only Wikimedia. For example, I couldn't help thinking about the JavaScript developers works sabotages. I'm referring to the broken gadgets, several per site every year for at least five ones (including this week!), which have provoked the resignation of a few qualified fellows.
So naively I didn't propose anything hopping that our website performances, which seems to be taken for granted, would stay a priority. JackPotte (discusscontribs) 22:26, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
Salut, JackPotte. I think your concerns fit the strategy discussions. You should elaborate on that during the Cycle 2. SGrabarczuk (WMF) (discusscontribs) 14:46, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
@SGrabarczuk (WMF): In this exchange you repeatedly failed to understand the points I was making. First, you missed my point about the inherent flaw of the process you're describing. You then shifted the topic from that process to the Foundation's relationship with "the movement", where you confused the history of the Foundation with the de facto policies of the Foundation. You appear to have mistaken me for someone ignorant of basic history; and then you suggested that we talk about wikimedia "without mentioning WMF" — which is literally impossible since "WMF" is part of the username of the account you're editing from, as well as impossible in spirit because you are, apparently, editing in an official capacity as a representative of the Foundation. Sadly, I don't think we're going to successfully communicate. --Pi zero (discusscontribs) 11:35, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

Freely available math textbooks[edit]

At least some are copyright reserved: http://people.math.gatech.edu/~cain/textbooks/onlinebooks.htmlJustin (koavf)TCM 03:47, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

@Koavf: Is that material on Wikibooks somewhere? --Pi zero (discusscontribs) 11:16, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
@Pi zero: No, sorry. First off, I fixed the link. Secondly, I am pointing to available books (almost 80 of them); some of them may be CC licensed such that we can use them here but even if not, someone may see the link and be able to use the books independently. —Justin (koavf)TCM 13:59, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
Some of them are CC licensed. Personally I prefer (simply because nobody is interested in the work involved in importing stuff into WB structures) either uploading a PDF version to Commons or getting WS to import them... QuiteUnusual (discusscontribs) 14:22, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

U of Missouri to use open textbooks[edit]

http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/20170621/university-of-missouri-to-push-cheaper-textbook-planJustin (koavf)TCM 16:30, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Search results from Wikibooks now active in Wikipedia's search system[edit]

Just to let you know, as announced via mailing list service, English Wikipedia is now receiving search results of this project, Wikibooks, intended to direct Wikipedia users to this project. Currently, an option to suppress the search results of this project from the English Wikipedia search system is proposed at Village pump's "proposal" subpage, where I invite you to comment. --George Ho (discusscontribs) 19:15, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Correction: The search results were mistakenly included by developers. There was "no consensus" to include those search results. Therefore, I filed a task at Phabricator to suppress those. --George Ho (discusscontribs) 01:10, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Recently, another proposal to include Wikibooks in English Wikipedia's cross-wiki search results system is made. --George Ho (discusscontribs) 22:41, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Copyrighted but freely-available circuits and electronics textbook[edit]

https://www.circuitlab.com/textbook/Justin (koavf)TCM 17:47, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

As it is clearly copyright I'm not sure what you are suggesting? QuiteUnusual (discusscontribs) 12:47, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
That someone could read it and learn things about electronics. —Justin (koavf)TCM 17:30, 18 July 2017 (UTC)