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Textbook for Portland Public Schools[edit]

I'm looking for a place to host an open textbook about Portland, Oregon. All third grade students must study the history of Portland but there are no appropriate resources.

Is this a good place for such project?

The main contributors would be teachers and (hopefully) the local historical society. The main audience would be third grade students with a supporting teachers' guide. If a conventional publisher was willing, it could be converted to a print version.

Thoughts, anyone? Advice? Are you aware of a similar open book I could use for a model?

Craig H.

Media Specialist, Portland Public Schools

Cahpcc (discusscontribs) 02:25, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

@Cahpcc: This would be perfectly appropriate for Wikijunior. This is a sub-project of Wikibooks which is fairly small but intended for younger readers. I'd be delighted if you pursued this course. —Justin (koavf)TCM 06:44, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
@Koavf: I went over to WikiJunior and it does seem like a good place for this project. I feel like I need to do some "community organizing" before I start the project.

I'm still looking for an example of where this has been done before. It's a common situation -- a localized curriculum where thousands of students need a book but not enough to attract a textbook publisher.

@Cahpcc: Wikijunior can host material for several age groups, including third graders. But it is fairly low-traffic. How can I help? —Justin (koavf)TCM 01:37, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
@Koavf: Thanks for the offer of help. I'm sure I'll need some! The low traffic doesn't matter since this will be required reading ;-) My job now is to get involvement by teachers. I'm also doing my own homework. I will message you when I have a question. Thanks!

Handbook on a fictional world[edit]

Hello everyone,

first I want to apologize, if I'm in the wrong place, but it seemed pretty appropriate.

I got a problem. I did invent a sci-fi setting to play a RPG in, now I thought it would be great to release all information necessary to generate content for this universe into the public domain (describing society, planets, companys, races, basic timeline etc...). So that people would be able to base RPG-Settings, Audio Theater, Films, all sorts of fiction in general on the material. During time the book will grow with every media published about the setting adding to the "canon". The problem is: I think Wikibooks is the ideal place for this, but because of the fictional nature of the topic it might be... dunno... bad?

Why do I think wikibooks is the ideal place for it? Because everyone can contribute to the universe, even as an IP who doesn't care about wikimedia, but publish a short story on his/her Blog adding the infos he invented here. Hence the "Handbook" on the world is growing larger and larger, so everybody wanting to publish their own material can look up easily everything necessary to tell storys according to the here published growing "canon". There need to be some guidelines to let's say "block" certain "bits of information" for a certain amount of time, so that a creative mind can finish his work, adding the events he/she proposed to the "canon". The easiest example would be: The story takes place on a certain planet, and the author says: well for the next three month, the information about this planet is only written by me. It's probably possible to set the stage for something like this in the "Authorsguide" for the book...

Why do I think it might be a problem: It's a fine line between facts (here known as canon to a story) and fiction. There is the risk, that authors think they can contribute stories/content here. Where should be even drawn the line? Isn't the "invention" of a world in itself already fiction, so it does not belong here? There might occur problems, because some persons want to write, lets call it, "inappropriate" stuff, describing the backgrounds here... (actually my biggest concern: abuse in a "being rights" sense).

You probably guess: I think it will fit in nicely (and hopefully work out). I looked some books up and I think comparable would be the Lego Design book and the Magic The Gathering Book. My goal would be to describe "bricks" of information (published here), with which authors can build stories (published NOT here -> Youtube, Blogs, Deviantart, etc...). The result would be a totally free canon of a fictional world to whom everybody can contribute to.

To give an impression of how I see the content of the book:

What I would do:

  • Describe characters that have a real impact on the world
  • Describe Planets, vegetation, brief history
  • Describe Technology
  • Describe the timeline
  • ...

What I don't want to do:

  • I don't want to describe characters that are part of small stories
  • I don't want to describe every ship in fleet xy
  • I don't want to describe personal belongings of characters
  • ...

What do you think: Would you as a community accept such content? Do you think future Wikibooks-Generations would defend the idea against moving to wikia, which would probably be the first reflex of a wikipedian, to move the content to? At least it's original descriptive content? Did I miss any points (I probably did)? Is there anything that should be discussed, or is there a general opinion of "Cool! Give it a shot! If you stop writing in 3 month, we'll delete it anyways?"?

Thanks for reading, and your opinion, if you are so kind to write it. I'll probably sign up and start writing within the next half a year, if the majority likes the idea! Regards Axel--82.82.70.233 (discuss) 22:47, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Just a few days after I wrote this, I thought, maybe it's not that important anymore, but obviously it's more interesting than ever. Any Thoughts? Regards, Axel--HirnSpuk (discusscontribs) 11:06, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
@HirnSpuk: I can't speak to how good of an idea this is (it could be very creative and fun) but I don't think it would fall inside the scope of this project. —Justin (koavf)TCM 06:46, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply. I think so too. On the one hand. On the other, let's think about creatives, that need to write something creative and original about something special and need a textbook reference about the stuff they should be creative about. Shouldn't they be able to read something like this, which could probably be categorized as an educational textbook? Educational resources are not solely about science and tech, I think. But I know, the idea is somewhat controversial. Hence I was asking here about it. One could argue, and maybe this is the point, that a book about creative writing in general is okay, a book about specific creative writing is not. Everything might be about the question, would we tolerate such an experiment and monitor the outcome to judge the experiment successful or not (aka the book is read and creative works are emerging because of it). Accepting the risk of making an example which opens wikibooks in a direction, that makes it possibly more controversial regarding topics and thus less servicable (on the other hand, take a look at Subject:Fantasy_literature, it wouldn't be that far of limits). If I'm concluding from german wiki-projects, an experiment like this would be heavily rejected by the community. But suprise me :-)... actually I'm thinking nothing will happen here anymore, and don't get me wrong, I don't think it's a bad idea. So I'm pretty happy, that someone took the time to think about the idea. So thanks again. And: If anyone is interested in the idea, don't count me out. Regards, Axel --HirnSpuk (discusscontribs) 13:39, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Releasing a Book with Wikipedia article link[edit]

Hello, I'm a newbie so maybe this is a silly question:

I wrote a fictional book which is set in Esino Lario during Wikimania 2016 . I have two questions: 1) Can I publish-release the book somewhere in Wikimedia? 2) I'd like to link some place/event/facts that are in the book to Wikipedia article, did anyone make it already? can you give me any example?

Note: The book is written in Italian.

Mazrul (discusscontribs) 14:15, 2 July 2016 (UTC)Mazrul

Hi, Mazrul. Wikibooks doesn't publish fiction. But, I suggest you ask at the forum at Meta; perhaps folks there can offer a wider perspective on your options. --Pi zero (discusscontribs) 14:42, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
Dear Mazrul,
That sounds like a fun project.
I believe that every topic is on-topic on at least one wiki.
While writing new fiction is off-topic here at Wikibooks, it is on topic at the Fiction Wiki[1] and many other writing wiki[2].
I see that over 100 Italian-language wiki are listed at the WikiIndex[3] -- please tell me about any others not yet listed, or add them yourself. Alas, I am not yet good enough in Italian to see which one is the best for writing new fiction.
--DavidCary (discusscontribs) 01:53, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Thankyou I'll give a try! Mazrul (discusscontribs) 19:37, 27 July 2016 (UTC)