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Copyright problems at cookbook[edit source]

Hi @Edriiic: and anyone else this is relevant to:

Unfortunately we have had to delete some recently created pages as copyvios (copyright violations):

As far as I'm aware none of these pages have compatible licenses with ours, so direct copying is prohibited.

Please be aware of our Wikibooks:Copyrights policy. When you create a cookbook page you get an edit notice that states "STOP NOW from directly copying a published recipe. Doing so is a copyright violation, and it WILL BE DELETED, and administrative action can be taken against offenders. Over half of recipes created here are copyright violations and end up deleted. If you claim to own the copyright please follow the instructions at WB:DONATE first. "

Please share this message with cookbook contributors this may affect. --Jules (Mrjulesd) 23:49, 4 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Mrjulesd Thanks for the notice. I and @B.Korlah has brought it to their attention. Well will take further actions to ensure it doesn't happen again. Edriiic (discusscontribs) 06:18, 5 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi @User:Mrjulesd, thank you for this information, this information has been passed across to new editors of Wikibook:Cookbook, I hope that would stop from henceforth. Kind regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by B.Korlah (talkcontribs)

@Edriiic: thanks very much for that. For what is allowed please see https://copyrightalliance.org/are-recipes-cookbooks-protected-by-copyright/ . Basically, direct copying of recipe text (copy/paste or otherwise) is generally prohibited, although copyright protection doesn't cover the ideas expressed in recipes. In other words, recipes should always be in the own words of contributors, unless the source has a compatible license (which isn't usually the case). --Jules (Mrjulesd) 08:24, 5 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Giancoli Physics[edit source]

I am working on a physics textbook based on Giancoli Physics Principles with applications WalkingRadiance (discusscontribs) 20:05, 26 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I have a draft at Physics Principles with Applications.
I have requested express copyright permission from Douglas Giancoli WalkingRadiance (discusscontribs) 20:06, 26 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Change Cookbook categories - recipes by culture[edit source]

Thanks @L10nM4st3r for pointing out this talk page. I think this might be the best area? - sorry added this to the wrong section!

Summary: suggesting to merge current recipes categorised by "country" into "culture" (e.g. British Cuisine instead of Cuisine of the United Kingdom) as it reflects the cultural aspect of food more, rather than it being limited to a political entity. This including diaspora groups more easily and follows what has already been established by Wikipedia's articles on cuisine.


Discussion from the Cookbook

"I think the way cuisines are currently presented is problematic. Mainly as I think there has been a conflation of the state (e.g. a political entity) with the nation (e.g. community, culture, and identity).

For example, people normally discuss "Chinese food" or "American food", or "French cuisine", rather than "cuisine of France" or "cuisine of the United Kingdom", which is normally presented as "British food/cuisine".

Additionally, when focusing on political entities, rather than cultural identities, it makes it difficult to discuss and record recipes from diaspora groups like Kurdish cuisine where they have no defined/ recognised country.

This has also created a duplication of effort in this Cookbook, as categories exist for both the state throughout Category:Cuisines and the nation/ culture/ identity of a community of people within Category:Recipes by origin - whereas the latter categorisation is more broad, inclusive, and offers more flexibility to record recipes by than focusing on the state itself.

I also feel the precedent to focus on food as a cultural aspect, rather than a political one, has been set by Wikipedia in that articles relating to food focus on cultural identities rather than political ones. E.g. "British Cuisine" rather than "cuisine of the United Kingdom", etc.

Trying to untangle this within the Cookbook will be a little bit of a challenge as a number of edits/ page renaming will need to be made, but I think would be helpful to readers in how recipes are presented".

Initial idea:

  • Rename pages throughout Cookbook:Cuisines from "Cuisine of X" to "X Cuisine" e.g. instead of Cuisine of Albania it would be Albanian Cuisine.
  • Rename Category:Recipes by origin to Category:Recipes by culture

Would be grand to have more input from people Jamzze (discusscontribs) 15:57, 24 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I have no objections, but I'm not a cookbookian or a chef. L10nM4st3r/Roar at me 16:02, 24 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I understand the concern, although I do think there is some value in the identification of state cuisines since the construction of a state can result in cultural blending and the emergence of new, sometimes fusion cuisines. Additionally some things fall into multiple useful categories, neither of which is perfect but both of which have value. Just to make sure I understand, could you (@Jamzze) lay out exactly what you propose to do so we can all get an idea of the scope and what the end product would look like? -- Nostriker (discusscontribs) 03:14, 26 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You have a good point.
Maybe the issue is a little more simple then. I think this issue could be solved by: 1) renaming pages throughout Cookbook:Cuisines from "Cuisine of X" to "X Cuisine" e.g. instead of Cuisine of Albania it would be Albanian Cuisine and 2) rename Category:Recipes by origin to Category:Recipes by culture. Jamzze (discusscontribs) 08:22, 26 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I have no particular problem with using "X Cuisine" though it seems like it will require a lot of concerted effort to implement. I'm not sure "Recipes by culture" is the simplest or most accurate since not everything in that category is a culture per se, but they do all have an origin. I do think for both the suggestions you proposed it would be a good idea to get the opinion of an admin and/or someone who's been working on the cookbook for a while! -- Nostriker (discusscontribs) 22:29, 26 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]