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Noting here admin action I've taken, and am taking. Over the past few weeks or months, there's been this ongoing situation involving, apparently, edit warring between IPs; there seems to be a suggestion, somewhere in the murky situation, that all IPs on both sides of the war are the same person, creating a lot of confusion and trying to thereby slip stuff in without being noticed. Early in the game I recall sifting through edits looking for those that seemed sound, but after a few rounds my attitude is very much to just unwind all of it, and if somebody wants to do something useful they can register an account and explain just what they're doing at each step. I've doled out several 6-month blocks to IPs, one of them earlier today and I'm now going through their 100-or-so edits trying to unwind each page to a point before the edit-warring started. --Pi zero (discusscontribs) 13:19, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

One of them told me it was against a vandal, but I'm not convinced: User_talk:JackPotte#Explanation. JackPotte (discusscontribs) 16:54, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
Proof that we aren't the same person is, i don't use open proxi's. Wielbiciel Papieża (discusscontribs)
I don't find that a credible claim. Not using an open proxy is not proof of identity. Behavior is more convincing, and behavior says User:Wielbiciel Papieża is part of this. In any case, they're clearly claiming to be the same user who was just blocked as an IP, which makes their large-scale reversion of my edits block evasion. --Pi zero (discusscontribs) 19:15, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
Just administered a short (one week) block to over this. (Perhaps it ought to be much longer, but at least this puts something in the block log, that can be seen on later observation of the IPs.) --Pi zero (discusscontribs) 13:59, 5 October 2017 (UTC) --Pi zero (discusscontribs) 19:31, 18 November 2017 (UTC) --Pi zero (discusscontribs) 18:06, 25 December 2017 (UTC) --Pi zero (discusscontribs) 14:29, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

@Pi zero: Behaviour itself isn't enough to claim the identity. You didn't address that the IP user doesn't speak Japanese, which is an important identity evidence. You should also perform an Geolocation IP lookup and you have to address all parts of the IP user's Request reason. --Rezonansowy (discusscontribs) 05:07, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

A few remarks.
  • For the most part (though this has been going on long enough that I don't recall details of older instances), I've avoided closing the requests-for-unblock myself, merely providing a link back here so anyone who does consider them is aware of the context.
  • As far as I recall I have routinely checked the location on IPs involved, which have consistently (and as expected) been in Poland (at the time checked).
  • Saying "I don't speak Japanese", like saying "I am only making constructive edits", means in itself nothing. Given the behavior involved with these individuals on Wikibooks, it looks to me rather compellingly like meat-puppetry at least.
--Pi zero (discusscontribs) 11:46, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
Please note that w:Poland is a big country with more than one person. --Rezonansowy (discusscontribs) 05:04, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
That objection doesn't hold water. You insinuated I had not checked the IP locations; I offered sober reassurance that I had. It's just further support for what's already obvious, though: we have a long succession of cases where somebody acts in a very specific and highly distinctive way, and in every case the person involved is in Poland. --Pi zero (discusscontribs) 06:45, 31 December 2017 (UTC)


Recently, I've added stuff to watchlists. It would say something to the effect of

The page $1 has been added to your watchlist whats the source of this? Artix Kreiger (discusscontribs) 13:19, 17 November 2017 (UTC) JackPotte (discusscontribs) 17:44, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
@JackPotte:, can you remove the <nowiki> from MediaWiki:Addedwatchtext? Artix Kreiger (discusscontribs) 18:58, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
You can set any piece of MedaiWiki to not display with CSS. —Justin (koavf)TCM 19:32, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
Justin, the interface message at MediaWiki:Addedwatchtext appears to be broken somehow. When I click to watchlist a page, the popup interface message is displaying the raw wikitext. The history[1] of the interface message says it hasn't been edited in nearly 7 years. Either it has been broken for 7 years and no one on this wiki noticed, or something else is caused it to break. And even if something else broke it, the 17 November 2017 date of JackPotte post above says been broken for at least a month and a half. Alsee (discusscontribs) 04:59, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

I mistakenly assumed Justin was an admin. This needs administrator attention. Alsee (discusscontribs) 05:08, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

@Alsee: Maybe in 2018! I'd like to be more active here. —Justin (koavf)TCM 05:25, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
@Alsee, Koavf:, Maybe. I'd like to edit it to fix it as well. Artix Kreiger (discusscontribs) 23:08, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
Removed the <nowiki>. Hope that fixes it. Thanks for bringing this up. --Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 02:41, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
Atcovi the WMF deliberately killed some or most wikitext-functionality in these messages back in Dec 2016. In particular #ifeq no longer works, and apostrophes for italics and bold. However <I> and <B> still work. See Phabricator T153403, declined as WONTFIX. I'm wondering how no one here noticed it for a year.
I suggest applying the same fix as was applied on EnWiki at the time:[2]
The page "[[:$1]]" has been added to your [[{{ns:Special}}:Watchlist|watchlist]], which will list edits to this page and its associated talk page.
Alsee (discusscontribs) 07:49, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
@Alsee: Alas, I'm not surprised by something like that sitting around for a year. I don't think my own experience is atypical, as a fairly-long-time contributor to non-Wikipedia sister projects; and what I find is that the software temporarily breaks all the time, and there's little or no point in complaining about it because it happens while the Foundation is doing stuff that they arbitrarily define as important and the Foundation neglects non-Wikipedian sisters anyway. It's all made even sadder by the reality that the Foundation is evidently unaware of their own long-term conditioning of the non-Wikipedian sisters; I've seen them routinely assume that their feedback from non-Wikipedia projects is unimpaired, and even dismiss the few complaints they get on the grounds that there are so few. It's not like this is even hard to believe; I can quite see that people with all the best intentions can create an information-bubble around themselves like that; what I don't know is what, if anything, can be done about it. I've not forgotten trying to communicate with Lila Tretikov and finding that she was already inside the Foundation information-bubble. --Pi zero (discusscontribs) 15:32, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Done , seems to work now. --Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 12:42, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

First choice of user name is blacklisted, not sure why[edit]

I'd like to register, and use the same name as I use on other forums, Neil_UK. Is this possible?—Preceding unsigned comment added by (discusscontribs)

It doesn't seem possible to have "_" in your name... maybe "Neil UK" (from CentralAuth). --Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 16:18, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

Canadian History/The Wildlife of the Lands[edit]

Temporary Protection may be needed. Artix Kreiger (discusscontribs) 00:36, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

@Artix Kreiger: I've blocked the three IPs involved thus far. For my part, I'd just as soon leave the page unprotected, on the theory that if there are any others, forcing them to go elsewhere could only make them less easy to detect. --Pi zero (discusscontribs) 00:51, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
I believe if there is another vandal attack, a protection should take place. But for now, leaving this page as is, is better. --Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 01:26, 17 January 2018 (UTC)