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[edit] European History Wikibook
Hello! I'm a Wiki user who's trying to study European History but I have trouble downloading this wikibook's PDF version; perhaps my computer is too slow. Do you mind if you send me the PDF copy of the European History Wikibook through e-mail? My e-mail address is: hfc1102@gmail.com ---- Thank you!! 68.48.32.65 20:57, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] General Scope of the Project
As I understand, the purpose of this book is to give general information in an accessible manner about wide scope of general European history for English speakers interested in the subject. Thus I can agree on using simple language. However, the way in which that information was given is unsystematic, sometimes overly simplified, other times confusing and out of context (more on terminology and bibliography in the next section), perhaps even somewhat innacurate, tendentious, or otherwise questionable. In subsequent sections I shall try to illustrate. TheUg 20:58, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Resources, Glossaries etc.
Interesting to see what resources did you use for some of the chapters. I know my history, and have no trouble navigating in facts, figures, terms, putting them in context, making conclusions and so forth. However, we need to understand, that many kids will have trouble understanding concepts, issues, even basic terminology used there. I’ll give you particular examples below, but here’s the general idea: after each chapter and/or section make a list of resources (bibliography), glossary with basic explanation of terms used and, mayhaps, links to Wikipedia articles for those interested in deeper understanding. TheUg 20:58, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Russian Revolution of 1917
Let this be my first set of examples.
Terminology: term “soviet” was used for the first time out of the blue, only with later hint on “woker council”, without explanation of the idea behind it, and therefore later ambiguous usage. Same applies to Duma, “zemstvo”, and so forth.
Also I deem incorrect description of ЧК, НКВД and КГБ, as “secret police groups”. First of all, it’s incorrect in terms of time frame (possible to put it as “CheKa (later NKVD, KGB)”. Secondly, NKVD was not a “secret police group”, but rather, in American terms, “Department of Interior” (Or, in Russian way, “Ministry of Internal Affairs” (law enforcement and Interior Forces (somewhat analogous to American National Guard) under one umbrella)), which incorporated in itself elements of so-called “secret police” (later taken out into separate entity, such as KGB). And thirdly, these were not the only mechanisms of political supression, as implied in context.
Percipitating Factors, should be reorganised and generalised. For instance, it should say in general about the crisis of the absolutism (just like the causes of many other European revolutions of preceding era), some factors (such as Russo-Japanese war) should be put in context, and some things, such as Stolypin’s reforms or congress of the first State Duma (representative, although only consultative, parliament) after the Revolution of 1905, should be deemed as positive attempts by the system to reform itself, albeit those attempts were perhaps futile in all eventuality.
And also must be mentioned the general importance of that particular set of circumstances in that it determined the scape of European and world politics for many decades ahead, and still echoes nowadays.
Rasputin, I believe, was not all that important. Yes, people talked about him and his perceived influence on the royal family, but it was mostly in tabloid terms, and I doubt he was akin the “grey cardinals” of the past, or Roves and Cheyneys of today.
Civil war, again, was greatly simplified. Tere were many political parties of many colours, vying for dominance, international intervention (expeditionary forces of Western powers) was there for many various reasons, importance and implications were as big as the preceding revolutions themselves, nevermind sheer magnitude of the conflict. All in all, it is a bit more complicated, bloody, and politically devisive than known to you American civil war, which in itself wasn’t that black-and-white as some might portray it today, I am sure.
These are some things, I felt, we should discuss before we draft or even start editing right and left. TheUg 20:58, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] WB:NC
Please stick to "European History/Chapter name or number" as the naming format. For more, see WB:NC. I suggest "European History/Chapter name" rather than number. Thanks and regards, ✉haginძazt\c 02:14, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Wikibooks:No personal attacks Change of text
You voted for enforcement of Wikibooks:No personal attacks. The text of this policy has been changed by Jguk during the vote, I have further modified these changes to restore some of the original "bite". This is highly unusual but without these changes Jguk is unwilling to allow the policy to move to enforced. I am happy that the changes are not sufficiently substantial to undermine the policy, if you disagree then please make your views known. Changes to text during a vote could be construed as a delaying tactic so I have proposed a move to "enforced" status by 1st June. RobinH 10:10, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Image:Portrait hr.jpg
Why do you assume this image is public domain? What is the source of this image? --Derbeth talk 12:32, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
- I deleted this image and added another one instead. See European History/Europe: 1945 to Present. --Derbeth talk 21:27, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:MapEurope1920.jpg
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