Talk:Quenya
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[edit] Syllabary
Is there are list of words that could be used as either a syllabary or a glossary (non-copyrighted... if that is possible)? That seems like a key feature that is missing from this textbook right now. --Rob Horning 16:03, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
- Rob, there's little complete evidence of corresponding canon quenya vocabulary. The most complete that I have heard is a document from the old/primitive quenya (spelt 'qenya', but pronounced the same).
- I don't know about legal status on these documents:
- But we could definitely link to them, and see what the author feels about making derivative works of them (reproducing them, in a revised presentation, on this site). —Auk 00:52, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Wikiversity course
There is now a Wikiversity course being developed for Quenya. See wikiversity:Quenya. Jade Knight 18:39, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Stress markings
Which syllable to stress is one of the harder things to get right when learning a language; it's more an innate 'feel' than calculating based upon known rules. I suggest we (in addition to providing the rules) emphasize the stressed syllables of words, especially when modifying with prefixes and suffixes and in the lower chapters. This would ease the student (it would help me a lot) into a more natural feel to the rhythm of the language.
Comments on the style in which to do this? (Bold, italics, underline, capitals?)
—Auk 21:57, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
I think this will make these pages more complicated than needed.
It might however be useful on the paradigms page. I don't know how it would best be indicated as underlines are already use to indicate irregularities.
—User:Dirk_math 12 November 2006
A user of the Elfling mailing list has sent a link to this WikiBook. It generated so far criticism from one of the authors cited as the source of this WikiBook, Thorsten Renk. You can read it at Elfling message http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/33860
I do not agree with his vision that "in this situation, the Wikipedia concept is bound to fail", but it surely can be much improved. The Book, as it is, may mislead the reader into thinking that Quenya is a fully developed and completely usable language, when in fact Tolkien apparently never had such intentions. For example, the scope of this WikiBook could be shifted from a "how do I learn Quenya" type of book (there are two well-written ones already) to a "how did Tolkien develop his ideas on Quenya through the course of his lifetime." I can find Quenya courses in a snap on Google, but I can't say the same about comparative analysis of the various stages of the Quenya development.
If this shift doesn't happen, at least change the name of the WikiBook to "Neo-Quenya," which is more accurate.
-User:Jaroszewski 23 February 2007
[edit] Book name change
Should this book maybe rather be called Neo-Quenya since it's on that topic, rather than Quenya. --Swift (talk) 01:52, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
