Talk:Lucid Dreaming/Using
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It would be neat if you collected a few links of these forum posts - I don't remember anything about this.
Considering that I have read almost every post there for several months, should I be worrying? r3m0t (cont) (talk) 21:16, 15 Apr 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Wikipediholic reference
the dream test is now item 90. i expect this will change again
In fact it did ! But I don't know what test the article is refered to... --77.201.222.142 (talk) 21:05, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Flying styles
I'm pretty sure Superman flies with two arms forward and Neo with one. 66.69.147.209 08:47, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Stopping to smell the roses?
"Slowing it down" and "Do not stare" directly contradict each other. In my experience the latter is especially true, and an easy way to end a lucid dream early. Recommending it in the section immediately before seems counterproductive. Any thoughts? CardboardCup 19:21, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
- I think the problem (at least part of the time) is when you stare only at the point in the center of your vision and don't see anything in your peripheral vision. If you don't pay attention to your peripheral vision while staring at an object, it (your peripheral vision) can start to fade until you can eventually only see whatever it was you were staring at, and then not even that. (Or at least, that's happened to me before.) It also helps to see a lot of detail on whatever it is you stare at. I merged "Slowing it down" and "Do not stare", but added a note about staring potentially making dreams fade at the end of the section. Let me know if you think "Do not stare" still needs its own section and we can try to find a compromise. :-) —Tharenthel (Talk) (Contribs) 07:25, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] What you can do
From related Wikipedia article. I think this belongs to wikibooks. Maybe you can use incorporate it into the LD wikibook.
- Supernatural acts: Lucid dreamers, realizing they are dreaming, then go on to realize that normal limitations like gravity or "solidity" no longer apply, and it's possible to perform acts that can't be done in real life (e.g.: running faster than 50 miles per hour, or staying underwater for lengthy periods of time).
- Flying: One of the more common and pleasurable activities of lucid dreamers is flying. Many lucid dreamers report they are able to float, fly and transport themselves anywhere in the dreamworld at will. With practice, so called "impossible" feats such as flying at supersonic speeds, or flying through objects are possible.
- Transformations: Some people believe that (after some practice) one can transform one's dream-self into real or fictional animals, or any number of other forms, including other people or general sex change. Some also claim to have tried sensory experiences not normally achievable while awake, such as 360 degree stereo vision, sonar (bat) vision, and being able to modify one's body to try out being a different weight, height, gender, age, etc.
- Superreality observation: Since during a dream the dreamer's senses are not limited by physical or mental constrains, it is possible to observe reality "in high definition". While looking at a tree from a big distance, for example, the dreamer should be able to see detail in each an every one of its leaves, without even having to "zoom in".
- Spiritual practice: Some religions claim that lucid dream states give the dreamer a special kind of access to the spiritual world. By practicing prayer or meditation during a lucid dream, the dreamer can gain access to mystical states of awareness that would not be accessible from the waking state. Such practices are sometimes classified as "dream yoga".
- Real-life rehearsal: Since the mental and physical effects of lucid dreaming are almost indistinguishable from real-life, dreamers can rehearse various things (such as stage performances, soccer moves, etc.) in a lucid dream and readily apply that to real-life. It is possible to essentially repeat the events of a lucid dream as many times as the dreamer desires. As such, the dreamer can explore the effects of any course of action within that dream and/or refine their course of action to get a desired effect without resorting to directly willing the desired effect to happen.
- Experience enjoyable activities (which may or may not be impossible in real life): E.g., having sex in any number of pleasing or fantastical ways, eating impossibly large meals while still enjoying each morsel as if it were the first, conversing with imaginary characters from books or movies, visiting faraway places, etc...
- Playing God: Because a dream is not actually real, it is possible for one to completely alter the nature of the universe within one's dreams and re-shape the reality of that dream however they wish. One can, in effect, become omnipotent within a lucid dream. This can sometimes be quite a "power trip". While it is often difficult or impossible to manipulate people in a dream to act as you want, it is normally possible to just force them (physically) to do what you want.
- Creating an environment and letting a story unfold: You can put yourself at a starting environment (after opening this door, behind there will be a dungeon) and explore the place. You don't need (and actually can't) design the whole environment, and the details will pop out without your conscious intervention, and it is common that surprises often occurr in the dream. Be careful not to lose the control of the dream in this situation, as it is very easy to fade into a normal unconscious dream while following a story.
- Artistic Ideas: Looking for or requesting "art", such as in the form of sculpture, painting or song, allows the dreamer to recall upon wakening new "art" ideas.
- "Dream-time": It is believed by some that when one is proficient at lucid dream control, a person can extend the dream. A person could spend an entire week in a dream, while only being asleep for one night. Nevertheless, most lucid dreaming (and possibly normal dreaming) occurrs in close to "real time".
--Zoz 18:26, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] "Many people have also experienced realistic effects when trying drugs in dreams that they have never taken in real life."
I call BS, this is unprovable. I can't see how you can judge a 'realistic' effect if you dont have a real experience to compare it to. "People claim to..." would be more accurate
- maybe you are the one who claim to!
- It's true, I once got drunk in a dream before I had tried it in real life. It was pretty realistic, only I felt fantastic the next morning!
You could totally do this! Haven't you ever read a book on drugs? Looked at a pamphlet in a doctors office about marijuana? They list the effects! Sure, you might not be able to create the EXACT effect without trying the drug first, but I think drug effects can be emulated from imagination. Nothing is impossible.
I once had a dream that I was swimming underwater while smoking pot, and I felt as if I were melting and I had some sort of huge pressure on my brain....... I would like to wonder if this is an actual side effect of the drug...... 68.190.51.8 05:09, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Headlines in bullet points
Do the headlines have to be within bullet points? Looks real ugly. I'd removed them if it weren't for the comment that indicates they're deliberate. –Dilaudid 22:30, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] *Mostly* Dead discussion
This whole book's discussion is pretty much dead, but if people have questions about Lucid Dreaming, drop a message at erik212's (me) talk page, or e-mail me at erikmuntean@yahoo.com. -erik212
[edit] Meditation and Lucid dreaming
It happens to me. I meditate on my heart(chakra) about an hour a day. After a while dream images emerge. I'm fully aware but there is this reverie like state.--Jondel 03:34, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
