Talk:Lucid Dreaming/Dream Recall

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A house can represent your mind. The cellar might be your subconscious. What does the house look like? Who lives there?

Trains and similar vehicles can represent sexuality. Are you on the train, or are you afraid of being hit by one?

I don't understand both of these - I know that the first one happened in Jung's famous "collective conscious" dream, but I don't see why other people would have the same analogy. The train one I can't see at all. The flying one which I added, however, is fairly obvious - or so I think, anyway.

Here's a nice quote from the ld4all.com forums about this:

There is no set of standards by which your brain renders images. "Let's see, I subconsciously desire more time with my family, so I'll dream about a horse falling off of a building." No no no... Come on, people. [1]

Kaycee, why these? r3m0t (cont) (talk) 01:10, 5 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I know about the problems associated with giving "generic interpretations". However, there are things that most (western) people encounter during their early life, such as living in a house and traveling in a vehicle. I believe these shape the imagery the subconscious uses. The "train entering a tunnel" is a classic Jungian symbol representing penetration.

Anyway, I understand if you feel that these two examples serve better as anecdotes, not generic guidelines or anything. Feel free to delete/edit.

KC 07:37, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Surely the train entering a tunnel would only appear as pentration if you already know about this Jungian symbol?

Also, they would be useless as anecdotes unless a full dream is used. r3m0t (cont) (talk) 07:44, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)

It is important to improve your dream recall because it is possible to have a lucid dream without remembering it! It is worth getting your dream recall up to a few dreams per night for exactly that reason.

It may be just me, but I find this line to be a little silly. How do you know that you can dream lucidly and not remember it if you don't remember it? Hm? ;) --DarkPhoenix 12:31, 23 May 2004 (UTC)

It is a little silly, but that seems to be the general opinion in the lucid dreaming community. I think there was some experiment that LaBerge did - basically, it was found that eye movements while dreaming correspond to movements in the dream. Therefore, LaBerge could enable dreamers to signal by moving their eyes left-right-left-right (this shows up clearly on the recording equipment). He asked people to do that movement when they became lucid. I think some people did the signal but didn't remember the dream! The simplest conclusion is that they were lucid but forgot about it.

Anyway, I can forget huge sections of a lucid dream, so why not forget all of it? r3m0t (cont) (talk) 13:39, 23 May 2004 (UTC)

Another thing i do when i recall a dream is finding out why something happened. Was it because i expected/wanted it to happen or did it happen naturally. It makes lucid dreams feel more natural when you've got one. --Markornikov 19:20, 01 Februari 2005 (CET)

[edit] Why is interpretation included?

Does the section on dream interpretation really belong in the lucid dreaming book? Can you state exactly how dream interpretation is related to lucid dreaming? Does that relationship merit inclusion in this book?

Points where there is a relationship:

-Focusing on dreams by carrying out interpretation can increase dream recall. (But so can simply writing them down.)

-Dream content can be interpreted in both lucid and non-lucid dreams, however it is unclear how lucidity affects the content.

-"Live" interpretation while the dream is happening adds new dimensions to dream interpretation.

It seems to deserve a mention and a link, but I recommend moving the elaborate description to another book.

Sorry for the rather slow reply.

I would not consider dream recall to be connected with lucid dreaming much. I suppose that you could move the dream interpretation to a seperate book, but that would just add another book which is nowhere near completed. Wikibooks is "loose" at the moment due to the low quantity of good books. Possibly when it becomes larger things like this will be sorted out.

If you still wish to: write enough content for it to be worth splitting up the page, take the stuff out into a new wikibook, put it in Template:New, and add a link here to it. r3m0t (cont) (talk) 15:54, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] *Mostly* Dead discussion

This whole book's discussion is pretty much dead, but if people have questions about Lucid Dreaming, drop a message at erik212's (me) talk page, or e-mail me at erikmuntean@yahoo.com. -erik212