Talk:Gardening
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I did some adapting to port this PD text to form the basis of this article and subsections of it. 67.23.154.119 20:56, 25 May 2004 (UTC)
Is there maybe an option of linking to a dictionary to add the various names of plants, diseases and insects in several languages??
If so, I've got a lot to add to this (mainly biological info). Finding out the translations of all is much nicer if I can add them in a dictionary for all to see ;)
anyone, please let me know.
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[edit] Convert to Wiki
Dear author. I've seen you did a lot of work in copying Bailey's (1858-1954) Manual of Gardening book into Wiki. I would suggest, you put the original title and author's name more prominently on the first page (that it is a historic book of gardening. Also, please use Wiki markup in the chapters.. for example == section == for different sections. Thanks --Andreas Ipp 23:35, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- It also needs an awful lot of updating - getting the terminology and scientific names up to date, and conversion to standard international metric measurements (in particular to get rid of that awful archaic Fahrenheit cr@p) - before it can be considered a useful item to refer to - 82.39.130.135 16:44, 29 Jun 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Use this as a basis for something practical?
I think it's a good idea for Wikibooks to have a gardening manual - it's a companion to the Cookbook - but this at present isn't it.
Well done for uploading this, but I think we should try to convert it into something more practical and less historical. I mean, have you read the entry on garlic? It can only just restrain itself from calling garlic filthy foreign muck! I'm changing that, and soon. The framework is something we can use but we need to encourage work on the entries.
Redlentil 10:35, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Yeah, that's wrong, unfortunately. We can still call garlic putrid and revolting though. That ought to do. AlbertCahalan 03:51, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Cross-referencing
I've just created the template {{gardeningpar|Whatever}} in en.wikipedia.org for your cross-referencing pleasure. Cheers. --bleh fu talk fu 20:19, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Link: w:Template:gardeningpar --Kernigh 17:09, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] move to Garden?
That would save 3 keystrokes whenever I don't have the prefix ready to paste. "Gardening" would of course redirect to "Garden". AlbertCahalan 03:55, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] maybe start over
This is awful. We could just delete it. A fresh start would really help I think. The book has and/or suffers from:
- needlessly complex wording
- big meandering blatherings
- generally obsolete tools, like horses
- obsolete ideas, like selling your herbs to the local store
- generally non-wiki style
- a "completed" or "finished" feel that is uninviting for editing
- a "personal opinion" feel that is uninviting for editing
As evidence, the book has been sitting this way for ages and is not getting fixed.
Probably this should be two separate books anyway. You can make a productive garden, or useless decorative nonsense. The two are very different. The useless decorative nonsense could go in a Landscaping book.
AlbertCahalan 04:55, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Feeling a bit daunted...
I was surprised and happy to find this book here, then saw the non-wikied problems. I'm not sure whether to work from what's here, or start over? I do think a wiki encyclopedia of garden would be nice to have on wikibooks. (Gardening "encyclopedias" are mostly how-to, so better here than on the 'pedia, perhaps (with lots of crosslinking, of course). I am opening a category for gardening... a few friends and I want to write some books on the subject. I assume these books should be new projects, not edits of this book. (Are there project pages on wikibooks? See The wikiproject on horticulture and gardening. Johnny 12:26, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
- No, do not work from this book. See Wikibooks:Votes for deletion/Archive 1#Gardening. The consensus so far is that we will move the public domain text to Wikisource, then delete this book. You can start a different horticulture and gardening book if you want. --Kernigh 15:47, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Merge, new book, etc.
Because of the odd nature of this book (seems to be mostly a transcription of an outdated text), I think it's better to work on a new one. I've made a small start with A Wikimanual of Gardening, which will need some formatting decisions (multivolume?, what goes in each volume?, etc.). Probably best to just leave this one be and use the original version as source material when appropriate. Johnny 16:10, 4 June 2006 (UTC)