Talk:False Friends of the Slavist/Polish

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[edit] Proofreading Center

Some things still have to be done by speakers of Polish. Please leave a note about what you are doing or have done in the following list of tasks.

[edit] Monolingual page

The monolingual page has to be proof-read by someone who knows Polish well; please correct the mistakes you find and make a list of your corrections here, so that other people can use your list to correct the bilingual pages. While doing this, look if someone else has already listed mistakes they spotted on this talk page.

[edit] Bilingual pages

The bilingual pages should be proof-read after the monolingual page is corrected, so that the mistakes spotted there can already be used. Please have a look at the talk pages of the bilingual pages, too, to see if someone else has already made comments about mistakes there.

[edit] Maps

Someone should look through the semasiological maps of those words where there have been mistakes in the monolingual page and adapt them.

[edit] Translations needed

  • The bilingual pages should have headings in the respective languages, in separate lines (i.e. with an empty line between them in the edit window) below the main heading. So we need the following Polish translations:
  • "<center>'''Polish-Belarusian false friends'''</center>" below {{FFHead...}} (above the Belarusian heading, if it exists) at the head of the Polish-Belarusian page.
  • "<center>'''Polish-Kashubian false friends'''</center>" above {{FFStart}} (under the Kashubian heading, if it exists) at the head of the Polish-Kashubian page.
  • "<center>'''Polish-Upper Sorbian false friends'''</center>" above {{FFStart}} (under the Upper Sorbian heading, if it exists) at the head of the Polish-Upper Sorbian page.
  • "<center>'''Polish-Czech false friends'''</center>" above {{FFStart}} (under the Czech heading, if it exists) at the head of the Polish-Czech page.
  • "<center>'''Polish-Slovak false friends'''</center>" above {{FFStart}} (under the Slovak heading, if it exists) at the head of the Polish-Slovak page.
  • "<center>'''Polish-Slovenian false friends'''</center>" above {{FFStart}} (under the Slovenian heading, if it exists) at the head of the Polish-Slovenian page.
  • "<center>'''Polish-Croatian false friends'''</center>" above {{FFStart}} (under the Croatian heading, if it exists) at the head of the Polish-Croatian page.
  • "<center>'''Polish-Bosnian false friends'''</center>" above {{FFStart}} (under the Bosnian heading, if it exists) at the head of the Polish-Bosnian page.
  • "<center>'''Polish-Serbian false friends'''</center>" above {{FFStart}} (under the Serbian heading, if it exists) at the head of the Polish-Serbian page.
  • "<center>'''Polish-Macedonian false friends'''</center>" above {{FFStart}} (under the Macedonian heading, if it exists) at the head of the Polish-Macedonian page.
  • "<center>'''Polish-Bulgarian false friends'''</center>" above {{FFStart}} (under the Bulgarian heading, if it exists) at the head of the Polish-Bulgarian page.

[edit] Babka

Babka in Polish means also this plant pl:Babka--SylwiaS 01:09, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

And both baba and babka are also used to refer to the cake. Halibutt

[edit] Grać

Grać doesn't mean in Polish 'to dance'. But has some additional meanings like 'to simulate', 'to sparkle' about colours, 'to agree, chime', and there is something like grać na uczuciach means 'to take advantage of someone's emotions'.--SylwiaS 01:47, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Of course! Polish "grać" never means "to dance". I have removed it from the list. One should also refine this everywhere. --Grzegorj 16:54, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

"grać" as Sylwia can be used grać na uczuciach. A better translation of grać would be the word 'play' I think. Anton87 (talk) 15:53, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kraska

Kraska in Polish is a kind of bird pl:Kraska European Roller.--SylwiaS 02:01, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Majka

Majka in Polish is a diminutive form of Maja - a female first name.--SylwiaS 02:10, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Uroda

Uroda in Polish means only 'beauty', or 'looks' in general. Urodzaj means 'crop'.--SylwiaS 02:28, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rzecz

Rzecz has also the basic meaning 'thing' in Polish.--SylwiaS 02:39, 3 March 2006 (UTC) It also has the meaning "matter" - as in " w czym rzecz?" "what's the matter" or "w rzeczy samej" lit. "in the matter itself", generally used as "indeed".

[edit] Biesiada paragraph

Biesiada certainly never means 'a talk' in polish. The basic meaning of 'biesiada' is 'a feast', 'a banquet' or 'a (grand) party'. The meaning 'ceremony' sounds really awkward. Biesiada is also used to describe cultural events like poetry recitation i.e. 'biesiada poetycka'. On the other hand the word rozmowa means 'a talk' but never ever a 'party, ceremony'. Now that looks like a mess.

Biesiada is a false friend in ALL of these languages, the polish rarely used meaning of "party-with-lots-of-food-and-alcohol" seems to be unique to this language.

[edit] góra

this word has also meaning of "up" (see do góry, w górę).

[edit] ług

has also it's meaning of łąka in proper names.

[edit] stół

isn't that messed a bit? (especially this russian exception)

[edit] lato

plurar form lata is rather taken from singular rok than lato...

Quite contrary, lata is a plural form and originates from lato. In the past years were measured in lata (season), so lato (sing.) meant and was as rok. It's the same with a person's age given in wiosna or zima.--Rjc 16:01, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
Singular: lato (summer), plular: lata. Singular: Rok (year), plular: lata.

[edit] kraj

in my opinion this word shares it's meaning with other languages in it's "edge" sense.


[edit] szukać

A co ze słowem "szukać"? Przecież to największa pułapka językowa, jeśli chodzi o słowacki, i chyba najbardziej znana, dziwi mnie że nikt tego tu nie umieścił. Po słowacku (fonetycznie) oznaczałoby to w sposób wulgarny czynność seksualną. Szukać po słowacku to 'hledat'.

[edit] homoseksualizm

Jest u nas słowa "pedał" i całkiem podobne słowo "peder" w serbsko-chorwackim. Tyle, że u nas "pedał" to także pedał od roweru, nie tyl;ko ten od odbytu, co chyba należałoby jakoś zaznaczyć

Poza tym jest chyba w czeskim słowo cuchnot', które bynajmniej nie oznacza "smrodu" zajmie się ktoś tym?

[edit] homo 2

No i trzeba jeszcze zaznaczyć, żeby nie było tak, że Serb przyjedzie, ktos powie - "o ,pedały" i biedny Serb pomysli ze manifestacja pedałów od roweru właśnie idzie ;) Poza tym jest w jugosłowiańskim słowo "pas" - po naszemu "pies" Słowo "psuje" to po naszemu "psuje" a po jugolskiemu "przeklina"

[edit] rata

"rata" po naszemu wiemy co to jest a po Sr/Hr to jest dopełniacz od "wojna" - "rat"

[edit] cuchnot

w ogóle śmieszny motyw był z tym słowem, bo to u czechów znaczy "wąchać" chyba. Mój koleś miał laske w czechach i ona mu coś chyba napisała prosto spod prysznica o swoim "cuchnącym" ciele :-d :-d :-d

[edit] phraseological mistake - błąd tłumaczenia frzeologizmu

przetłumaczenie "False Friends of the Slavist/Polish" jako "Fałszywi przyjaciele słowacy w języku Polskim" zakrawa na żart. Zmieniam na "Mylące słowa..."

Zaciekawiony

Dlaczego? "Fałszywi przyjaciele" to nazwa dość często spotykana.
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