Talk:A-level Mathematics/OCR

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"Core" maths is no longer the correct term. It is now called "Pure" and the module is no longer called C1, it is P1. Further Pure 1 is FP1 etc...

I could swear that it was the other way around - they changed it from pure and it became core in the process. Hence schools have purchased books for "Core". - Estel 20:39, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Estel is correct, for OCR at least. See the specification that is linked to on the actual page. Mattrix 16:21, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Further that. Estel is correct. C1~P1, C2,3,4~P2,P3 as I understand it. This is the last any person will be able to do old 'Pure', such as those who are doing further maths. Those who are doing single maths are, in my school, forced to retake equivalent core modules. Secondly, I am currently taking some Maths exams (p3,4 ; m3 ; d1), and may write something on them here. Unfortunately I have no experience of the new system, so some fiddling around may be needed. --Mark Lewis 22:39, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Correction, I'm taking the edexcel syllabus, so cannot really contribute fully, other than formulae etc.
You should still be able to contribute if you want as the syllabi are broadly similar and you can look at the OCR specification linked to on the main page for more information. Mattrix 15:42, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Congrat Matt :D. This Wikibook is number 21 when it comes to a Google search of "C1 maths OCR revision" - Estel 15:03, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

Um well I think we should copy the syllabus as closly as possible, it clearly states CORE, and well, just leave it. --Mitchc 07:00, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

In my AQA syllabus, it is called "Pure Core Maths" - maybe that would be a good compromise? Guiltyspark 11:02, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Contents

[edit] Is this the correct structure?

I was reading in the discussion on another page that this needs to have a mulitple refrence system, so that what is covered in P1 or C1, isn't repeated all over the place. I also question the DE section, does this need its own section or should more be filled in?--Mitchc 06:46, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Yes a multiple reference system would be useful eventually, but will be quite difficult. I think the best strategy would be to get the book close to completion based solely on one specification, and then work on an adaption for the most similar specification, and so on. A completed book for one or two specifications is much better than a half-empty structure for lots of specifications. -- mattrix 20:10, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
I agree with mattrix, lets finish the content before we mess about with different contents pages. --Krackpipe 19:00, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
I have a suggestion for an improved structure to this wikibook --- separate the contents into pure maths, mechanics, statistics, etc. Within each of these categories, we introduce the concepts in a complete manner, and highlight (colour coding perhaps?) the different demands of the specification modules. --The.ginkgo.nut 16:24, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
I think this would be handier, but only once the content is much more complete. Then we can expand it to be more of a general A-level wikibook with pages linking to the exact parts you need to know for each syllabus. --Avxxv 19:26, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Not that there's really much debate over it now, but the current structure seems to me to be the one which seems most useful, with the information broken down into the modules and topics on the OCR specification. Odd bloke 20:51, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Worked problems?

Would it be a good idea to provide a couple of good worked problems for each section of the content? Ideally, the problems should be modeled after what might be expected in the actual exam. --The.ginkgo.nut 01:12, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

That's a good idea, so far, I've been using small examples to show certain concepts, but exam style answers with working would be a great help to students. --Krackpipe 19:59, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Mathematics vs. Further Mathematics

Briefly: should Mathematics and Further Mathematics come under the same WikiBook, as they are different courses? If not, would at least some restructuring on this page make it clearer which parts are for which? Odd bloke 20:45, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Further mathematics requires you to take the further pure modules, and any one of the applied modules (Stats, mechanics, or decision), so there is quite a bit of overlap between both courses. I think something saying like "further pure 1 + 2 and an applied module are required for the further maths course" and "the four core modules with two applied modules are required for a qualification in A-level mathematics" should be fine.--Krackpipe 21:25, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

"A module may only be taken as part of a Mathematics or a Further Mathematics course. A student must therefore take 6 unique modules to be awarded an AS (Advanced Subsidiary) Level qualification in Further Mathematics."

Is that true? Can you do AS Maths and AS Further Maths, without doing A2 Maths? Surely C3 and C4 are prerequisite for FP1. I did the edexcel course, and did it before the P's became C's, so it may be different, but it seems odd if this is true. Why do 2 AS's rather than 1 A-Level? Tango 20:59, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

You certainly can. FP1 only requires GCSE-level maths, as it is all new (harder stuff), taught at the same time as C1 and C2. And one would rarely choose to take two AS's, the 9 module option would be more common. Odd bloke 03:49, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
Depends on which board you are taking, It seems with OCR the maths and further maths can be taking side by side, conversly for edexcel the further maths modules are dependant upon the entire A level sylabus, and as such the modules are completely different and orderdered to the OCR modules.--82.153.238.161 15:17, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Differential Equations

Is this really a module for OCR? Aleksev 13:33, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

  • I can't see it as a seperate module, although the subject is part of Further Pure Mathematics 3 (FP3), and Core Mathematics 4 (C4). Silverfish 17:19, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
  • It is a module, I'm currently taking it. CardboardCup 14:15, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] High school applications

I'm a high school teacher, and would like to contribute. It would be useful to me if this mapped onto high school courses. Does it, or, can we work on that? Let me know if/how I can help! 70.26.230.177 04:35, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Sure, A-levels are taken between the ages of 16-18, so I think this is the same sort of material as high school. You can have a look at the syllabus on the front page of this book to see what topics need to be covered. From there you should be able to find out which parts of the books map onto high school courses. Krackpipe 12:40, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] is CS1 complete?

All pages in CS1 are marked as complete (4 green squares), shouldnt CS1 be marked as complete on this page as well?

PS. great job with this A-level book, it looks great, so much of this stuff isnt taught in the Canadian High School Curiculum.

--24.141.251.98 20:33, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Answers to textbooks

When I was going through the course, I did some of my homework on the computer (in LaTeX, no less), so I can assemble things like User:Odd_bloke with relative ease. I've checked out the legality of this before (it falls under 'an annotated text'). Do people think this would be a valuable addition? Odd bloke 03:52, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed name change

All other books dealing with A-level subjects are styled with the first l of level being lower-case. In order to gain consistency throughout our A-level series, this book should be renamed A-level Mathematics. I trust this will be an uncontroversial change, but before asking User:Tsca.bot to help out, I thought I'd note it here to allow for any comments others may have, Jguk 07:14, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

I agree, go ahead with the change.--Krackpipe 19:03, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Uncategorised pages

I have added on the contents page a couple of modules that were listed as orphaned. Please either integrate these modules into this book, or alternatively mark them for deletion. Thanks, Jguk 21:14, 3 July 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Broken Link

the Intro link appears invalid: http://www.ocr.org.uk/Data/publications/specifications_syllabuses_and_tutors_handbooks/AS_A_Level86696.pdf --Billymac00 (talk) 04:28, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

I've replaced the link with what seems to be a link to the same (or an updated) file. The file name is the same. Silverfish (talk) 15:30, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Statistics 1 - OCR(MEI)

This page is currentely being edited, it is not as the query suggests, a page created in error. Could this be removed? Thanks. --Nothingtosomething (talk) 18:25, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] A question

I was thinking about adding to some of the AQA AS modules (C1 and FP1). Should content be written as prose, or as a summary of course content? Does each section deserve a (sub-)page of its own, or should it all be summed together in one document?

Never done anything on Wikibooks, so any advice/thoughts would be appreciated! =D --DTR (talk) 21:10, 19 December 2008 (UTC)